1001 reasons why Heavy Metal rules:

GJ · Post by GJ » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:07 pm

I'm pretty satisfied with how things have turned out.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:17 pm

Personally, I could have lived without Deep Purple or any single note of hammond organ in metal.

Cochino · Post by **Cochino** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:20 pm

I vote for that reason to be removed. As much as one might like a hammond organ is certainly not one of the 1001 reasons why Heavy Metal rules, 99% of Heavy Metal doesn't have hammond organs, and the little that does have it, sucks most of the time.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:33 pm

hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM

bigfootkit · Post by **bigfootkit** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:41 pm

I would have said that it's a valid opinion, some Metal does have Hammond on it and the OP finds that to be a reason why HM rules.
It's his opinion and he's entitled to it despite what the rest of us may feel on the subject.
The black/death/corpsepaint stuff does nothing for me, but i can't (and wouldn't), exclude it just because it's not my thing.
The reasons why heavy metal rules are myriad and many hued, it's a broad enough church that there should be room for all it's many shades.
Personally i enjoy the Hammond on '60's/'70's proto style stuff, but the only "recent" bands i've heard using it effectively have been SPIRITUAL BEGGARS and MYSTICK KREWE OF CLEARLIGHT.
However there are a great many bands down the years who have used it sparingly on the occasional song for mood or a little colour & texture. If only for that reason i say the nomination should stand.
"Orion" without the growl of the organ? Unthinkable.

Cochino · Post by **Cochino** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:50 pm

The main objection I have is that hammond represents other genres. If you say hammond no one is gonna think about heavy metal. That's why I think is not a valid point.
When he said:

508. The Demo version of Frost and Fire with the awesome Synthesizer.

That's a valid point because is synthesizer on a metal context, but just saying "hammond organ solos", that has nothing to do with metal to me.

GJ · Post by GJ » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:44 am

Totally agree with Cochino (except maybe that I don't really care if it remains on the list). Personally I just can't see (feel) the Heavy Metal/Hammond connection.

513. The lack of hammond organ solos.

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:30 am

MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM

Uh I can think of many great metal songs/albums with good and atmospheric synth stuff thrown in but not so many with that hammond sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCjpKsBf44

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:33 am

Deep Purple rules though

GJ · Post by GJ » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:59 am

The Erlking wrote:Deep Purple rules though

Yup! They do.

Test: Imagine Fast as a shark with hammond organ.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:03 pm

The Erlking wrote:
MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM
Uh I can think of many great metal songs/albums with good and atmospheric synth stuff thrown in but not so many with that hammond sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCjpKsBf44

Cool band, but just not my type of "metal"

514.Associating HM with speed,certainly a good rush while driving ur car fast!

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:04 pm

GJ wrote:
The Erlking wrote:Deep Purple rules though
Yup! They do.

No, they don't. They never did. It's just another example of a so-called ''classic'' band that doesn't mean shit to me.

Cochino · Post by **Cochino** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:11 pm

I haven't heard everything from them and I've heard a lot of things I didn't like but Machine Head is a great album.
Of course, Deep Purple doesn't come even near to Black Sabbath.
Oh, and thanks, GJ, that evens up the list

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:16 pm

Cochino wrote:I haven't heard everything from them and I've heard a lot of things I didn't like but Machine Head is a great album.
Of course, Deep Purple doesn't come even near to Black Sabbath.
Oh, and thanks, GJ, that evens up the list

Deep Purple + In Rock >> Machine Head. I love Deep Purple up to and including Perfect Strangers.

GJ wrote:Test: Imagine Fast as a shark with hammond organ.

Imagine Blitzkrieg's Blitzkrieg with a Hammond Organ. Oh no, you don't have to, it exists.

The Erlking · Post by **The Erlking** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:20 pm

MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:
The Erlking wrote:
MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM
Uh I can think of many great metal songs/albums with good and atmospheric synth stuff thrown in but not so many with that hammond sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCjpKsBf44
Cool band, but just not my type of "metal"

Well there are lots of other examples too. Do you like Saracen?