Old bands that have modenized their sound and stayed good?

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:26 am

Tormentor wrote:Root indeed. Any band that can work in something nearly approximating alternative rock into a true metal band and make it WORK are geniuses (and Root certainly are!).

FUK YES, ANOTHER THAT AGREES ABOUT ROOT!

GGrotesque · Post by **GGrotesque** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:34 pm

Morbid Angel

The Sentinel · Post by **The Sentinel** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:27 pm

GGrotesque wrote:Morbid Angel

I agree. Early Morbid Angel is too good too be true and the later works are very good as well. I never understand why everybody hates "Domination" though...and "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh" is damn excellent as well. I remember reading somewhere that the latter contains some material which was written in the 80's. Is that true?

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:50 pm

The Sentinel wrote:
GGrotesque wrote:Morbid Angel
I agree. Early Morbid Angel is too good too be true and the later works are very good as well. I never understand why everybody hates "Domination" though...and "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh" is damn excellent as well. I remember reading somewhere that the latter contains some material which was written in the 80's. Is that true?

Domination is OK. But they never topped their first three albums imo.

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:12 am

The Sentinel wrote:I agree. Early Morbid Angel is too good too be true and the later works are very good as well. I never understand why everybody hates "Domination" though...and "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh" is damn excellent as well. I remember reading somewhere that the latter contains some material which was written in the 80's. Is that true?

The track "Hellspawn: The Rebirth" was originally on Abominations of Desolation.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:35 am

have you noticed that all morbid angel albums are in alphabetical order?

Professor Black · Post by **Professor Black** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:48 am

Gamma Ray

The Sentinel · Post by **The Sentinel** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:25 am

DMR wrote:
The Sentinel wrote:I agree. Early Morbid Angel is too good too be true and the later works are very good as well. I never understand why everybody hates "Domination" though...and "Formulas Fatal To The Flesh" is damn excellent as well. I remember reading somewhere that the latter contains some material which was written in the 80's. Is that true?
The track "Hellspawn: The Rebirth" was originally on Abominations of Desolation.

That's true, there's also a long song on it which was written earlier (80's). The crappy thing is that I lost that cd, dammit

Noisenik · Post by **Noisenik** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:52 am

reg. Morbid Angel:

Formulas is a killer album, perhaps the most experimental of their albums. But I'm havig quite problems with Gateways and Heretic haven't convinced me either.

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:49 pm

Professor Black wrote:Gamma Ray

Oh yeah, definitely! They're probably the most consistent metal band ever. I can't think of any other bands with nine excellent albums and zero crappy ones. (Well, I suppose Sigh No More is kinda weak, but it's got enough good songs to not deserve being called "crappy.")

Professor Black · Post by **Professor Black** » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:55 pm

Well, I agree, yet more to the point of the original thread, they definitely modernized their sound starting on Somewhere Out in Space and in full-swing by Powerplant. In other words, with the arrival of Richter and Zimmermann. The band became less theatrical, less progressive... and instead they focused on more direct "rockish" songwriting and introduced an almost monochrome production technique to back it up. It worked for me, and I would name their two most recent albums among this decade's absolute favorites. "Empress" was the best new heavy metal song I heard from 2007.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:20 pm

DMR wrote:
Professor Black wrote:Gamma Ray
They're probably the most consistent metal band ever. I can't think of any other bands with nine excellent albums and zero crappy ones.

Running Wild.

Although, I think they've already been mentioned.

Nightlock · Post by **Nightlock** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Running Wild have been going downhill since Victory pretty much with the exception of The Brotherhood which is the best post 1997 RW release.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:45 pm

Nightlock wrote:Running Wild have been going downhill since Victory pretty much with the exception of The Brotherhood which is the best post 1997 RW release.

That was in reference to a band with nine good albums.

Although, the crappy part is debatable...

I personally don't like Gamma Ray at all.

Keir · Post by **Keir** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:58 pm

I definitely agree with some of the mentions so far: Virgin Steele (I actually prefer their newer releases to their first few), Jag Panzer, and Gamma Ray

I'll add that the new Scorpions is quite good and manages to integrate modern elements with their 80s sound in a way that they'd been unsuccesful in doing until now.