Non-urgent CD questions (READ OP!)

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:05 pm

Avenger wrote:Yes, I'm talking about when that specific pressing was first released though. Steamhammer started re-issuing their CD back-catalogue around '97-'98. It could very well still be in print.

ok, understood

As for the IFPI, I don't know why some have it and some don't. But I bought a copy of Agent Orange new in a shop a few years back and no IFPI code. So it's never 100% sure.

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:08 pm

I bought my copy 4 years ago new and it was nearly identical to the one pictured above, just with different matrix & ifpi code.

matrix: 50468115/085-75712 22
ifpi 0737

So that means that there are at least 4 different VR versions around ...

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:02 pm

perishinflames wrote:
Avenger wrote:Yes, I'm talking about when that specific pressing was first released though. Steamhammer started re-issuing their CD back-catalogue around '97-'98. It could very well still be in print.
ok, understood

As for the IFPI, I don't know why some have it and some don't. But I bought a copy of Agent Orange new in a shop a few years back and no IFPI code. So it's never 100% sure.

True - some new CDs dont have ifpi numbers at all. But it's very unlikely, that CDs from the same record company and pressing plant (after ifpi codes were introduced) sometimes come with ifpi, sometimes not...

By the way, this is the matrix of the first press:

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Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:34 pm

Violent Restitution is still available from Steamhammer/SPV! When I was doing distro 3 years ago we ordered it every month from them.

There are at least 4 different pressings like sovdat said, each are identical except for matrix numbers & center ring..

Some other titles with similar stories are: Satan-Into The Future/Suspended Sentence, Solstice-S/T, Hittman-Vivas Machina etc..

Ensiferum2k7 · Post by **Ensiferum2k7** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:14 am

what ebay sniping websites or software do you guys use?

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:57 pm

Could anyone tell me, how many pages has the booklet of the first AAARRG pressing (the one with no barcode) of Holy Moses - Finished With The Dogs?

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:28 pm

4 pages (that is if you count front cover as 1st one - 2 are inside).

Very first press of this CD comes with Mekong Delta logotype on the CD

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:25 pm

So the version which I have - with just a one page front insert - is incomplete/damaged ;/

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:39 pm

Only a single paper???

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:09 am

Unfortunately yes

Like in the Megaforce pressing of Kill' Em All. The seller claims she bought it it new from a store, but they all say that, and it's usually a lie.

This is on the back side of the one page insert (the very same text is on the back insert):

Probabily this is the same that is on the "second" page of your 8 page booklet.

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:50 pm

Just got this, wondering if it is real or not:

I know, my photography skills are severely lacking. But matrix reads "DURECO (01) ANTIMOSH 01". Thanks

Shit just noticed there's an IFPI code etched into the plastic of the inner ring. Must be bootleg then? Also it's got no barcode, any version made after IFPI codes were introduced should have a barcode right? gah

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:59 pm

If you really think it's a bootleg I will gladly buy it from you for a bootleg price

Joking aside, it looks perfectly legit to me...

If it has IFPI, then it looks like a first pressing re-release with unchanged cover art. Maybe the barcode was included in a form of a sticker on the factory foil?

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:14 pm

I'm really wondering as I've never heard of a bootleg copy of this CD before, but this looks very atypical for a Dureco matrix. Also the second pressing has a barcode printed on the rear insert. Maybe it's a very recent boot? Guess I'll wait for a bit more input before I try to return it.

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:20 pm

The second pressing is a whole different animal, as it is released by another record label.

Maybe the original issuer still preessed limited quantities of the CD well into the 90'... otherwise maybe it is a boot, but why on earth would the bootlegers put an IFPI there? that doesn't happen with old CD counterfeits.

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:45 pm

I don't mean the Osmose reissue, there is also a DSP copy with barcode. I also thought it weird that a bootleg would have an IFPI (as one of the purposes of these codes is to track counterfeit releases to specific pressing plants). Apparently the first two digits of the code indicate the pressing plant, when I googled the plant codes on the Merciless CD this is the only release that came up:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Trancema ... ase/612495