Bootleg Warning Thread

Post by **DaN** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:33 pm

Korgüll wrote:Does anyone know if these have been bootlegged on vinyl:
CRYSTAL PRIDE 7"

No bootleg exists. It's still quite common in Sweden (and outside) so there doesn't seem to be a demand for it. Yet.

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:36 pm

I just bought one for about 20EU! Too much????
I got some other bargains in the same deal as well, so at the end of the day it was probably a bit cheaper anyway?
Will list my haul in Recent Metal Finds when it all arrives...

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:40 pm

Korgüll wrote:The original should have a tiny NM019 under the disc & also SNA, and a series of tiny numbers: 12099602

I have an extra 'dead mint' original copy if anyone wants to buy or trade??

My copy doesn't have that, on the bottom of the disc it just says "Court in the Act." The index number is 5032066301925. I also noticed my copy was made in France. So I'm not sure if there was an official version from France that was different from the regular version, of if this is just a bootleg. Anyone know?

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:49 am

If it just says 'Court In The Act' it's the bootleg

My 2 copies say Made In France too, with that same barcode/index number.
But with those other numbers I mentioned, underneath the disc

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:45 pm

Korgüll wrote:If it just says 'Court In The Act' it's the bootleg :(

My 2 copies say Made In France too, with that same barcode/index number.
But with those other numbers I mentioned, underneath the disc

Well, at least now I know for sure. Plus, I learned a lesson about buying rare CDs from Metal Haven.

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:15 am

DMR wrote:Well, at least now I know for sure. Plus, I learned a lesson about buying rare CDs from Metal Haven.

You mean Metal Haven in Chicago? They just made their first wholeorder from me, so hopefully my releases will be available in their store soon.

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:08 pm

sovdat wrote:
Avenger wrote:
sovdat wrote:Yes, the original on Scratch
USDM 4013 MH #880534 13358-1
Thanks, but are you sure that this is the original? Does your copy have a blank booklet or does it have ads for other Scratch releases?

According to a very trustworthy old collector (some of you may know him as invocator2k from ebay), the bootleg matrix starts with USDM. I'm still waiting for him to give me the matrix of his (For now he just said "The Angel Dust bootleg has a matrix number that starts with USDM, and indeed a blank booklet.") ...

All I know is that Apocrypha's Forgotten Scroll bootleg also come with matrix that starts with USDM (USDM 4600, original has APCY-8036).

... so apparently there are at least two bootlegs,
the one with matrix USDM ... --> http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaanj5.jpg
(looks quite crappy)

... and this one --> http://shrani.si/f/2I/NI/1jkV4YSd/ebay-angeldust2.jpg

... and the original would be this: http://metaldenfer.dyndns.org/jpg/angeld1_cd.jpg

Professor Black · Post by **Professor Black** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:28 pm

DMR wrote:
Korgüll wrote:If it just says 'Court In The Act' it's the bootleg

My 2 copies say Made In France too, with that same barcode/index number.
But with those other numbers I mentioned, underneath the disc
Well, at least now I know for sure. Plus, I learned a lesson about buying rare CDs from Metal Haven.

Surely it was priced as a normal CD though?

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:24 am

sovdat wrote:
Avenger wrote:
sovdat wrote:Yes, the original on Scratch
USDM 4013 MH #880534 13358-1
Thanks, but are you sure that this is the original? Does your copy have a blank booklet or does it have ads for other Scratch releases?

According to a very trustworthy old collector (some of you may know him as invocator2k from ebay), the bootleg matrix starts with USDM. I'm still waiting for him to give me the matrix of his (For now he just said "The Angel Dust bootleg has a matrix number that starts with USDM, and indeed a blank booklet.") ...

All I know is that Apocrypha's Forgotten Scroll bootleg also come with matrix that starts with USDM (USDM 4600, original has APCY-8036).

I'm pretty sure the booklet is not plain, but I would have to check again and it was repacked because I'm going to be finally moving to my new place next weekend, but I'll check it once I'm there if I remember/you remind me.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:24 am

Avenger wrote:I also need the Matrix Numbers for:

Shok Paris - Concrete Killers I.R.S.

Thanks in advance guys.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:25 am

Avenger wrote:
big mouth wrote:
I've recently seen a Prepare To Die CD (not the split bootleg) release of I think 2000 limited copies and was wondering if it was a legit release or not.
Yeah they got the agreement from Don....
So it's official?

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:27 am

sovdat wrote:
sovdat wrote:
Avenger wrote:
USDM 4013 MH #880534 13358-1
Thanks, but are you sure that this is the original? Does your copy have a blank booklet or does it have ads for other Scratch releases?

According to a very trustworthy old collector (some of you may know him as invocator2k from ebay), the bootleg matrix starts with USDM. I'm still waiting for him to give me the matrix of his (For now he just said "The Angel Dust bootleg has a matrix number that starts with USDM, and indeed a blank booklet.") ...

All I know is that Apocrypha's Forgotten Scroll bootleg also come with matrix that starts with USDM (USDM 4600, original has APCY-8036).
... so apparently there are at least two bootlegs,
the one with matrix USDM ... --> http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaanj5.jpg
(looks quite crappy)

... and this one --> http://shrani.si/f/2I/NI/1jkV4YSd/ebay-angeldust2.jpg

... and the original would be this: http://metaldenfer.dyndns.org/jpg/angeld1_cd.jpg

I can tell you for sure that my copy that is the USDM Matrix number does not at all look like the one in the first picture.

It looks like the disc in the third picture.

I think that the first is a shitty bootleg where they managed to somhow add the USDM Matrix of the original.

So what did that other guy claim was the Matrix of the "original"?

My copy also came from pricekillers, so...

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:35 am

Hm, interesting, so I guess the bootleg and original have the same matrix? fuck ... anyhow, does your booklet has a blank booklet (like price killers CDs) or are there any ads for other Scratch releases?

I'm still waiting for that guys info, well I'm sure that he has the 100% info about it, since he's from the same school as yetisued or kreator72

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:44 am

sovdat wrote:Hm, interesting, so I guess the bootleg and original have the same matrix? fuck ... anyhow, does your booklet has a blank booklet (like price killers CDs) or are there any ads for other Scratch releases?

I'm still waiting for that guys info, well I'm sure that he has the 100% info about it, since he's from the same school as yetisued or kreator72

I'll be able to tell you next weekend.

I'm not going through my multiple boxes of CD's to find it for the second time, haha...

Just remind me.

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:19 pm

Professor Black wrote:
DMR wrote:
Korgüll wrote:If it just says 'Court In The Act' it's the bootleg :(

My 2 copies say Made In France too, with that same barcode/index number.
But with those other numbers I mentioned, underneath the disc
Well, at least now I know for sure. Plus, I learned a lesson about buying rare CDs from Metal Haven.
Surely it was priced as a normal CD though?

I think it was $19.