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[bigfootkit]

Whew, finally made it to the end of that epic Swedish episode. Very enjoyable indeed, highly informative whilst still being a lot of fun. Great work fellas.
I did think that Aaron's assertion that there wasn't much going on in '70's Swedish Heavy Rock deserved a stronger rebuttal. Great LPs from the likes of Neon Rose, White, Shaggy, Solid Ground, Cement, November, Subway Suck etc. & cool 45s from Outsiders, Alexander Lucas, Zane, Scorpion, Great AD, Hjärter Sex, Zeta etc. prove otherwise.
When Alan was rounding up the better known bands towards the end i was surprised at his omission of Grand Magus. If there's been a better trad HM album made in the 15 years since 'Iron Will' then i've not heard it.
Bad Nightsblood, no dinner for you!

[great_knuthulhu]

I think the incentive to sing in Swedish was mostly cultural. At least in the 70's and early 80's, 90% of the bands at your rehearsal place and/or scene was probably singing in Swedish, regardless of genre. As I mentioned in the stream, it was mostly the old prog and the newer punk scene who hold on to this tradition the dearest, so some peer pressure was surely involved...

Interesting, and surprising to me that it was the (supposed) polar opposites of Prog & Punk that had/have the strongest tradition of singing in Swedish.
In the UK i suppose it was the folk revival of the 60's that led to the reemergence of the Welsh language & Irish & Scottish Gaelic tongues in contemporary music which then was carried on into the 70's & 80's (particularly in Wales) through Prog, HM & Punk bands.
Was there a similar folky thing going on in Scandinavia back then that perhaps provided a fresh boost to the idea of Scandi singing or was it a tradition which had remained relatively unbroken ?

There were indeed some folky things going on in Scandinavia, often inspired by the British folk boom of the 60s or by traditional music. In Norway we had ideological labels (often leftist) who would only release music with Norwegian lyrics. A lot of that would also be sung in local dialects, and it influenced rock music in the 70s as well.

I believe there were similar ideas in Sweden, just look at hard rock bands like November or Råg i Ryggen, folky bands like Folk & Rackare or Kebnekaise, proggy bands like Kaipa, Samla Mammas Manna and so on.

Singing in Scandinavian language probably carried on into the 80s and quite a few hard rock/metal bands would sing in Norwegian/Swedish. Just listened to Norwegian band Road earlier today. Their first album was partly with Norwegian lyrics (those songs were the best on the release). TNTs first album was sung in Norwegian as well.

[bigfootkit]

There were indeed some folky things going on in Scandinavia, often inspired by the British folk boom of the 60s or by traditional music. In Norway we had ideological labels (often leftist) who would only release music with Norwegian lyrics. A lot of that would also be sung in local dialects, and it influenced rock music in the 70s as well.
I believe there were similar ideas in Sweden, just look at hard rock bands like November or Råg i Ryggen, folky bands like Folk & Rackare or Kebnekaise, proggy bands like Kaipa, Samla Mammas Manna and so on.
Singing in Scandinavian language probably carried on into the 80s and quite a few hard rock/metal bands would sing in Norwegian/Swedish. Just listened to Norwegian band Road earlier today. Their first album was partly with Norwegian lyrics (those songs were the best on the release). TNTs first album was sung in Norwegian as well.

Thanks for the info great_knuthulu.
It's interesting that these parallel events were taking place in several different countries, with each of these native tongue scenes most likely entirely unknown to each other.
Most of the labels who released that stuff in the time frame we're discussing would have been independents too, so these bands were pioneering the much vaunted 'D.I.Y. ethic' years before the Punk explosion which always get the credit for bypassing the pre-existing major label status quo.
High time those 'mother tongue' Folkies, Progsters & Heavy Rockers got the respect they're due in that respect.
Nice to see the 1st Road LP getting some rare respect too. I heartily agree that the Norwegian tracks are by far the strongest on that record, and if those songs had been a standalone EP it would now be far more sought after than the LP is. I just recently featured 'Hei Mister, Tida Går' on an episode of my podcast & though no-one recognised it, it seemed to go down really well.
I've not heard the 1st TNT LP for years & had forgotten it was sung in Norwegian. Even at that early stage they were a bit too slick for my tastes, though i do enjoy the power ballad 'Eddie' from that album. It's got that perfect 1982 'period charm', really memorable hooks and a very tasteful guitar solo too. Because of the languague barrier i've no idea what the song's actually about, so in my mind they've been crooning/whispering sensitively about Iron Maiden's namesake mascot all these years, though i doubt that's actually the case.

[great_knuthulhu]

Thanks for the info great_knuthulu.
It's interesting that these parallel events were taking place in several different countries, with each of these native tongue scenes most likely entirely unknown to each other.
Most of the labels who released that stuff in the time frame we're discussing would have been independents too, so these bands were pioneering the much vaunted 'D.I.Y. ethic' years before the Punk explosion which always get the credit for bypassing the pre-existing major label status quo.
High time those 'mother tongue' Folkies, Progsters & Heavy Rockers got the respect they're due in that respect.
Nice to see the 1st Road LP getting some rare respect too. I heartily agree that the Norwegian tracks are by far the strongest on that record, and if those songs had been a standalone EP it would now be far more sought after than the LP is. I just recently featured 'Hei Mister, Tida Går' on an episode of my podcast & though no-one recognised it, it seemed to go down really well.
I've not heard the 1st TNT LP for years & had forgotten it was sung in Norwegian. Even at that early stage they were a bit too slick for my tastes, though i do enjoy the power ballad 'Eddie' from that album. It's got that perfect 1982 'period charm', really memorable hooks and a very tasteful guitar solo too. Because of the languague barrier i've no idea what the song's actually about, so in my mind they've been crooning/whispering sensitively about Iron Maiden's namesake mascot all these years, though i doubt that's actually the case.

"Hei mister, tida går" is a really good song IMO. Deals with growing up, understanding society and being a long-haired freak in general. Good melody, nice hardrocking tune.

The first TNT album is one I really like, though quite possibly for nostalgic reasons. The vocals were done by Dag Ingebrigtsen, who had previously had enormous success with his band The Kids. A band which also had Norwegian lyrics. Before that he was in Subway Suck, who released an album in... 1979 I think. The lyrics are actually in a Norwegian regional dialect, the same is my mother speaks, si I'm naturally partial to that.

"Eddie" probably is about the Maiden mascot, kind of. The main character is clearly some kind of werewolf or similar. He turns into a beast at night and is driven to kill. Standard period stuff, really.

[bigfootkit]

The first TNT album is one I really like, though quite possibly for nostalgic reasons. The vocals were done by Dag Ingebrigtsen, who had previously had enormous success with his band The Kids. A band which also had Norwegian lyrics. Before that he was in Subway Suck, who released an album in... 1979 I think. The lyrics are actually in a Norwegian regional dialect, the same is my mother speaks, si I'm naturally partial to that.

"Eddie" probably is about the Maiden mascot, kind of. The main character is clearly some kind of werewolf or similar. He turns into a beast at night and is driven to kill. Standard period stuff, really.

I'm genuinely amazed that my not-at-all-informed guess about the subject matter of 'Eddie' turned out to be somewhat close to the truth. That knowledge may well have made the song perhaps 5% more enjoyable to me.
I had no idea that there was a connection between TNT & Subway Suck. Janne Stark put me on to their 'Little Red Album' in a discussion about Proto-Metal on this very forum some years ago, though it didn't grab me as much at the time as some of the other recommendations in that thread. I've been meaning to give it another listen for ages, so thanks for the inspiration to finally do so.

[Nonseinormale65]

Here is my second channel,the first one from now on will be focused on italian bands only while this one on international bands,here is the first video, Q5 live in Seattle 1984:

[nattskog]

I like to think of my own as good, if somewhat amateur.

I post a mixture of current underground discoveries / recommendations such as this:


As well as digging into older releases from the 80s and 90s such as this:

[nightsblood]

Since folks enjoyed the Swedish episode so much....... SWEDISH METAL PART 2: THE RETURN....


This time DaN and Janne Stark are the guests. And yes, Janne covers the 70s Swedish scene for us in great detail.

'Kit- re: Grand Magus, I've never really checked them out much. Everyone says they change styles over time so I'm never sure what to expect, and I thus never take the plunge

[bigfootkit]

Since folks enjoyed the Swedish episode so much....... SWEDISH METAL PART 2: THE RETURN....


This time DaN and Janne Stark are the guests. And yes, Janne covers the 70s Swedish scene for us in great detail.

'Kit- re: Grand Magus, I've never really checked them out much. Everyone says they change styles over time so I'm never sure what to expect, and I thus never take the plunge

Excellent (pronounced in that Monty Burns style).
Looking forward to this ep a lot, congratulations on getting DaN & Janne to both appear. As Swedish Metal brains trusts go they don't come much better than this, quite a coup.
Re Grand Magus, they did start out with more of a Doom feel overall, but the lions share of their catalogue is proper trad HM with epic tendencies & in JB they have a great singer who has a Dio-esque timbre but with it's own distinct flavour.
Try the albums 'Iron Will' or 'Hammer Of The North' for peak Magus. 'Monument' for their doomier side. Then thank me profusely.

[bigfootkit]

(Several hours later)
Well done fellas on a hugely entertaining & very informative episode. Janne Stark really is a Swedish Metal supercomputer isn't he? The tales & trivia just kept on coming.
Was glad to hear the record being set straight on the 70's scene after it was somewhat put down in the 1st Swedish episode & Mr. Stark produced several great records which rebuffed some of those negative notions. Neon Rose's debut is a huge personal favourite so it was particulatly nice to see them represented.
Was also pleased to see Proud, Mindless Sinner, Shakespeare & Parasite getting some love & respect.
I thought the episode worked particularly well at the beginning as the styles & eras were split quite distinctly & divvied up between the different contributors to discuss. Might be an idea to use that format again when discussing such wide time periods with many different eras & styles. Personally i've no interest whatsoever in Death/Black/(insert tr00-kvlt extreme sub-sub-genre here) Metal, so because of the way the duties were divvied up i was able to skip Marty's contributions (after Nihilist/Entombed/Unleashed) & just view Alan, DaN & Janne's segments as those focussed on my particular fields of interest. Turned a potential four hr watch with extraneous content which isn't 'my bag' into a 3 hour all-killer-no-filler view instead.

[DaN]

Belated cheers for the feedback, 'kit! 70's stuff that should be up yer alley that we didn't have time to mention, would be Alexander Lucas, Great Ad and Zane...

Just wanna promo' the latest stream on Heavy Metallurgy with my countryman Daniel Ekeroth. Was at his place only 2 weeks ago and he mentioned this thing was planned:

https://www.youtube.com/live/QF91dHhnVf ... Jq1mPtXW8q

Lots of stuffs & trivia I would have loved to partake in/correct, but you can't win 'em all

[lunaboy]

This podcast sucked horses balls. Daniel looked ( and spoke ) like arrogant leftist commie fucking asshole.

[bigfootkit]

This podcast sucked horses balls. Daniel looked ( and spoke ) like arrogant leftist commie fucking asshole

You do know you can just stop watching something if you're not enjoying it, yes?
Also you have the ability to have an opinion but can just keep it to yourself?
No need to bring that kind of attitude here, it's not welcome.

[bigfootkit]

Belated cheers for the feedback, 'kit! 70's stuff that should be up yer alley that we didn't have time to mention, would be Alexander Lucas, Great Ad and Zane...

Thanks for those 70's Swedish recommendations DaN, i was already familiar with all 3 but you nailed my tastes perfectly. Am i that predictable? Yeah, i probably am.
Cheers also for the heads up on the French Metal discussion on Heavy Metallurgy, a very enjoyable watch indeed. Hats off to Daniel in particular for delving back as far as Ocean & Silvertrain & giving them some overdue recognition.
I'm not sure i'd agree that the Ocean LPs were the first French Hard Rock records as they did have a rather good scene in France in the early '70's, though most of those bands never got further than 45 releases. For me, the 'Nador' LP by Franco/Moroccan band Les Variations from 1970 is the true ground zero LP for French heaviness.
Just my opinion, vive la différence.

[DaN]

This podcast sucked horses balls. Daniel looked ( and spoke ) like arrogant leftist commie fucking asshole.

Dude, what the hell is wrong with you lately?? Aren't you too old to be caught up in this americanized "culture war" bullshit? You've been such a cool contributor around here for ages and if it wasn't for that I'd banned the account yesterday. Final warning.

Seriously, if you're having personal problems and wanna talk, email me - I consider myself a good listener.