My "new" fave JPN-Metal: SIGH!

Azaras · Post by **Azaras** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:09 am

Mr Nuke wrote:
Azaras wrote:I am, however, cynical whenever kvlt black metal kids say that they go to "new" and "previously unexplored" areas in music.
While I gladly agree on this point, none can deny that some Black-Metal albums (both from the 80's and 90's) were monuments of pure darkness.

I'm not denying that. I'm just saying that what a lot of fans of SIGH claim is "innovative" in their music is not so new to fans of dark/horror music.

Post by **DaN** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:32 am

Korgüll wrote:Yeah, but the songs have to be good too?! This is missing on the last 2 albums IMO!

Dude, you really need to give "Gallows Gallery" another spin. The riffing and songwriting is fucking SUBLIME.

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:40 am

Azaras wrote:SHUB NIGGURATH (France), TREMBLING STRAIN, PRESENT, and a whole wackload of other psych-prog bands. The only difference is that SIGH can't possibly be as sick and twisted as those bands.

Shub Niggurath are clones of, and Present an off-shoot band of Univers Zero, which you should check out if you're interested in that sort of music. However I see absolutely no connection between avant/RIO prog and what Sigh did. Perhaps there's some Krautrock in there somewhere, but I think Sigh mainly played black metal with a hefty classical music infuence, not a 'classical rock music' influence as it were.

Azaras · Post by **Azaras** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:50 am

Helm wrote:Shub Niggurath are clones of, and Present an off-shoot band of Univers Zero, which you should check out if you're interested in that sort of music. However I see absolutely no connection between avant/RIO prog and what Sigh did. Perhaps there's some Krautrock in there somewhere, but I think Sigh mainly played black metal with a hefty classical music infuence, not a 'classical rock music' influence as it were.

I know UNIVERS ZERO, their album "Heresie" is pretty dank, too... However, I think SHUB NIGGURATH (and especially TREMBLING STRAIN) really went beyond what UNIVERS ZERO did in terms of dark creepiness. This is evident especially on the "Live Tape" '89, which I think goes even beyond "Les Mortes Vont Vites"...

We'll have to agree to disagree about SIGH. Their early work is totally metal, but on albums like "Imaginary Sonicscape" and even "Hail Horror Hail" they sound like parts are not only cropped from Italian horror prog bands and Kraut bands (sure), but RIO/zeuhl horror bands too. At least to me, and they haved mentioned bands like ART ZOYD and UNIVERS ZERO in interviews.

You're right about the classical music influence, I guess. I remember hearing something in a song that reminded me of Bela Bartok... but if they are playing some Bartok-ish, they may as well just rip off UNIVERS ZERO wholesale, because all those bands regurgitated that strain of classical music readily.

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:04 am

Well if they've mentioned Art Zoyd and Univers Zero at interviews of that time (not later) then you'd be correct and we don't have to agree to disagree, I'll readily agree with you.

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:44 am

DaN wrote:Dude, you really need to give "Gallows Gallery" another spin. The riffing and songwriting is fucking SUBLIME.

ok, I'll try again tonight & let you know if it's grown any more on me...

Maybe i'm just in the same boat as Noisenik & lost interest/concentration during the last time I listened to it?

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:45 am

DaN wrote:Dude, you really need to give "Gallows Gallery" another spin. The riffing and songwriting is fucking SUBLIME.

ok, I'll try again tonight & let you know if it's grown any more on me...

Maybe i'm just in the same boat as Noisenik & lost interest/concentration during the last time I listened to it?

Noisenik · Post by **Noisenik** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:13 am

another 60 seconds bug

this forum is haunted ... with bugs

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:31 am

Personally, i never got into that experimental/avant-garde/post-black metal thing which sounded rather incoherent, not metal and at times uninspired to my ears. I always prefered the bands' early pure black metal works. And Sigh is no exception to that.

Helm · Post by **Helm** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:47 am

Ion, I suggest giving a listen to Fleurety's 'Min Tid Skal Komme' in any case!

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:04 pm

Helm wrote:Ion, I suggest giving a listen to Fleurety's 'Min Tid Skal Komme' in any case!

Or try 'Ved Buens Ende - Written In Waters' from the same year!
Imagine Voivod with a BM edge!!?

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:10 pm

Noisenik wrote:another 60 seconds bug

this forum is haunted ... with bugs

weird? don't know what happened there... meltdown

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:07 pm

Korgüll wrote:
Helm wrote:Ion, I suggest giving a listen to Fleurety's 'Min Tid Skal Komme' in any case!
Or try 'Ved Buens Ende - Written In Waters' from the same year!
Imagine Voivod with a BM edge!!?

Thanks for the recommendations.

I've heard Ved Buens Ende before, it was a strange album, i recognise some quality/uniqueness in it but unfortunately it was not my cup of tea.

Fleurety i've never heard before. I'll give it a try soon.

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:57 pm

DaN wrote:Dude, you really need to give "Gallows Gallery" another spin. The riffing and songwriting is fucking SUBLIME.

Ok, I'm listening to it again now & it's actually better the second time around!

I'll have to give the new one another go now!