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chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:22 pm

Priamos wrote:
Zdan wrote:Does anyone have a copy of Ulysses Siren "Above The Ashes" CD with the title and band name printed in black on the front inlay? If so can you tell me the matrix of the CD? I recently bought mine directly from the band/their website it has this matrix:

GC03020515 DISC MAKERS

Anyone have a copy with this matrix?
Yeps! That's the one! Although I had to use magnifying glass for this "DISC MAKERS"!! Bought it many years ago.
Why asking? I guess you don't doubt about the legitimacy( !!!!!!!), do you???? Then, I guess there must a later version with different coloured letters on the cover, doesn't it?

Anyway it must be better than the very first pressing, which was &$%&$^&$^# damn CD-R (professionally printed but nevertheless CD-R)

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:39 pm

chatzial wrote:
Priamos wrote:
Zdan wrote:Does anyone have a copy of Ulysses Siren "Above The Ashes" CD with the title and band name printed in black on the front inlay? If so can you tell me the matrix of the CD? I recently bought mine directly from the band/their website it has this matrix:

GC03020515 DISC MAKERS

Anyone have a copy with this matrix?
Yeps! That's the one! Although I had to use magnifying glass for this "DISC MAKERS"!! Bought it many years ago.
Why asking? I guess you don't doubt about the legitimacy( !!!!!!!), do you???? Then, I guess there must a later version with different coloured letters on the cover, doesn't it?
Anyway it must be better than the very first pressing, which was &$%&$^&$^# damn CD-R (professionally printed but nevertheless CD-R)

Priamos: I asked because I wanted to know if anyone has a similar version because I found no information about tha one on the net. Yours is a CD and not a CD-R correct?

Chatzial: You mean the version with red band lettering and different print used in the title? That one also has a DISC MAKERS matrix and also an IFPI code. Do CD-R's have IFPI codes? My version for example has only what I wrote and no IFPI code.

So how do you exactly tell a CD-R from a CD?

Priamos · Post by **Priamos** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:54 pm

Zdan wrote: Priamos: I asked because I wanted to know if anyone has a similar version because I found no information about tha one on the net. Yours is a CD and not a CD-R correct?

Chatzial: You mean the version with red band lettering and different print used in the title? That one also has a DISC MAKERS matrix and also an IFPI code. Do CD-R's have IFPI codes? My version for example has only what I wrote and no IFPI code.

So how do you exactly tell a CD-R from a CD?

CD-R!!! Damn!!! I don't think so but never really checked carefully. I checked M.A. for the other editions. Mine (=ours) is the 2005 one by scrap metal/relentless records. Unfortunately I cann't check the CD right now. I have to wait to check it tommorow morning (although when I checked the matrix I think I would have noticed if it was a CDR -I think I can tell it easily, unless there are CD-Rs that look quite similar to silverpressed ones).

PS. Checked it!! But I can't tell 100% that is not a CD-R after all!! :oops It's not so easy as I thought to telll!! This one seems similar both to some silverpressed and some CD-Rs I compared!! I would have bet my bucks on the silverpressed, though. It looks closer to them. But, can someone tell us the golden rule to tell by the first glance??

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:00 pm

Priamos wrote:
Zdan wrote: Priamos: I asked because I wanted to know if anyone has a similar version because I found no information about tha one on the net. Yours is a CD and not a CD-R correct?

Chatzial: You mean the version with red band lettering and different print used in the title? That one also has a DISC MAKERS matrix and also an IFPI code. Do CD-R's have IFPI codes? My version for example has only what I wrote and no IFPI code.

So how do you exactly tell a CD-R from a CD?
CD-R!!! Damn!!! I don't think so but never really checked carefully. I checked M.A. for the other editions. Mine (=ours) is the 2005 one by scrap metal records. Unfortunately I cann't check the CD right now. I have to wait to check it tommorow morning (although when I checked the matrix I think I would have noticed if it was a CDR -I think I can tell it easily, unless there are CD-Rs that look quite similar to silverpressed ones).

I think ours is not done by Scrap Metal Records. At least mine isn't because I bought it directly from the widow of Jon Torres and it says it is on Relentless Records. When I get the chance I will take photos of this edition and maybe someone can tell. I know Amazon sells on-demand CD-R's of this release.

Priamos · Post by **Priamos** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:26 pm

Zdan wrote:
Priamos wrote:
Zdan wrote: Priamos: I asked because I wanted to know if anyone has a similar version because I found no information about tha one on the net. Yours is a CD and not a CD-R correct?

Chatzial: You mean the version with red band lettering and different print used in the title? That one also has a DISC MAKERS matrix and also an IFPI code. Do CD-R's have IFPI codes? My version for example has only what I wrote and no IFPI code.

So how do you exactly tell a CD-R from a CD?
CD-R!!! Damn!!! I don't think so but never really checked carefully. I checked M.A. for the other editions. Mine (=ours) is the 2005 one by scrap metal records. Unfortunately I cann't check the CD right now. I have to wait to check it tommorow morning (although when I checked the matrix I think I would have noticed if it was a CDR -I think I can tell it easily, unless there are CD-Rs that look quite similar to silverpressed ones).
I think ours is not done by Scrap Metal Records. At least mine isn't because I bought it directly from the widow of Jon Torres and it says it is on Relentless Records. When I get the chance I will take photos of this edition and maybe someone can tell. I know Amazon sells on-demand CD-R's of this release.

Damn!!! Mine says on the back it is distributed by scrap metal under the licence of relentless.
However it's not this edition!!!
http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/2731
It's this one:
http://www.metalcrypt.com/pages/intervi ... ?intid=305
However I think I bought it before 2005!!! So it could be the first one... Sorry, man!!! I don't remember exactly!!
But fuck it!!! I give up!! Could someone enlighten us positively?

Priamos · Post by **Priamos** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:26 pm

Zdan wrote:
Priamos wrote:
Zdan wrote: Priamos: I asked because I wanted to know if anyone has a similar version because I found no information about tha one on the net. Yours is a CD and not a CD-R correct?

Chatzial: You mean the version with red band lettering and different print used in the title? That one also has a DISC MAKERS matrix and also an IFPI code. Do CD-R's have IFPI codes? My version for example has only what I wrote and no IFPI code.

So how do you exactly tell a CD-R from a CD?
CD-R!!! Damn!!! I don't think so but never really checked carefully. I checked M.A. for the other editions. Mine (=ours) is the 2005 one by scrap metal records. Unfortunately I cann't check the CD right now. I have to wait to check it tommorow morning (although when I checked the matrix I think I would have noticed if it was a CDR -I think I can tell it easily, unless there are CD-Rs that look quite similar to silverpressed ones).
I think ours is not done by Scrap Metal Records. At least mine isn't because I bought it directly from the widow of Jon Torres and it says it is on Relentless Records. When I get the chance I will take photos of this edition and maybe someone can tell. I know Amazon sells on-demand CD-R's of this release.

Damn!!! Mine says on the back it is distributed by scrap metal under the licence of relentless.
However it's not this edition!!!
http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/2731
It's this one:
http://www.metalcrypt.com/pages/intervi ... ?intid=305
However I think I bought it before 2005!!! So it could be the first one... Sorry, man!!! I don't remember exactly!!
But fuck it!!! I give up!! Could someone enlighten us positively?

chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:31 pm

My copy is the first Relentless edition. I bought it when it was released.
And it was a professionally printed CD-R, i will upload photos later.

If i remember correctly it was later printed in normal silver pressed CD.
But Relentless at first pressed it in CD-R

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:33 pm

Priamos wrote:
Zdan wrote:
Priamos wrote:
CD-R!!! Damn!!! I don't think so but never really checked carefully. I checked M.A. for the other editions. Mine (=ours) is the 2005 one by scrap metal records. Unfortunately I cann't check the CD right now. I have to wait to check it tommorow morning (although when I checked the matrix I think I would have noticed if it was a CDR -I think I can tell it easily, unless there are CD-Rs that look quite similar to silverpressed ones).
I think ours is not done by Scrap Metal Records. At least mine isn't because I bought it directly from the widow of Jon Torres and it says it is on Relentless Records. When I get the chance I will take photos of this edition and maybe someone can tell. I know Amazon sells on-demand CD-R's of this release.
Damn!!! Mine says on the back it is distributed by scrap metal under the licence of relentless.
However it's not this edition!!!
http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/album/2731
It's this one:
http://www.metalcrypt.com/pages/intervi ... ?intid=305
However I think I bought it before 2005!!! So it could be the first one... Sorry, man!!! I don't remember exactly!!
But fuck it!!! I give up!! Could someone enlighten us positively?

Mine says the same thing. It's this edition:

http://17329745.tistory.com/entry/Ulyss ... -the-Ashes

Looks exactly like it and has the misprint on the back insert. It does not look like a CD-R to my eyes but I might be wrong. Anyways it sounds great and has a full booklet etc. I would just like to know if it's a CD-R or normal CD. I know Disc Makers press CD-R's but do "normal" CD runs as well.

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:07 pm

For a better picture of the CD edition I am talking about:

http://surfacer.egloos.com/v/1888118

There is also a picture of the matrix there. I think based on this someone should be able to tell if this is a CD-R or a normal silverpressed CD.

Priamos · Post by **Priamos** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:34 pm

Yeps, the same. Let's see if Chatzial can clear things out.

chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:58 pm

Zdan wrote:For a better picture of the CD edition I am talking about:

http://surfacer.egloos.com/v/1888118

There is also a picture of the matrix there. I think based on this someone should be able to tell if this is a CD-R or a normal silverpressed CD.

Mine is a totally diferent copy. The one at your photo is the second pressing and if i remember correctly it is a normal silver pressed CD.

But at first, to test the waters, Relentless pressed and sold the copy that i will post photos.

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:09 pm

chatzial wrote:
Zdan wrote:For a better picture of the CD edition I am talking about:

http://surfacer.egloos.com/v/1888118

There is also a picture of the matrix there. I think based on this someone should be able to tell if this is a CD-R or a normal silverpressed CD.
Mine is a totally diferent copy. The one at your photo is the second pressing and if i remember correctly it is a normal silver pressed CD.

But at first, to test the waters, Relentless pressed and sold the copy that i will post photos.

It's good to know it is a normal CD. I would not like to rebuy that album.

For the record - you can get a copy like the above one for 15 dollars (including shipping) from the widow of Jon Torres directly.

chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:10 pm

Priamos wrote:Yeps, the same. Let's see if Chatzial can clear things out.

And here is the damn CD-R Relentless release:

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:12 pm

There is also an edition with the red logo (and totally different backcover), it comes before the black logo one and it's not a CDR: matrix code is DIDX-087913 DISC MAKERS
It has two IFPI codes: L337 - 5100

About the CDR, I think it comes from Amazon...

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:13 pm

chatzial wrote:
Priamos wrote:Yeps, the same. Let's see if Chatzial can clear things out.

And here is the damn CD-R Relentless release:

Oh that is totally different. I can understand why you are mad then. There is still a third release with red band name on the cover and different lettering.

Anyways - you can still get the actualy CD release for 15 dollars with shipping directly from the band.