Replica vinyl bootlegs that attempt to be sold as original

Sgt. Kuntz · Post by **Sgt. Kuntz** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:51 pm

also be careful with those:
HEAVY LOAD Full Speed At High Level
GARGOYLE (US) Gargoyle
MOTÖRHEAD Overnight Sensation
MOTÖRHEAD Snakebite Love
RUNNING WILD Masquerade
BLIND GUARDIAN Somewhere Far Beyond
SLAYER Hell Awaits Pic-Disc
KING DIAMOND Voodoo
OMEGA (UK) The Prophet

Khnud · Post by **Khnud** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:06 pm

Sgt. Kuntz wrote:OMEGA (UK) The Prophet

There's a rerelease (bootleg?) of this on some Italian label, but it's easy to tell the difference as far as I know. With them, you know, being different labels and all.

Or are there other versions/bootlegs of this I'm unfamiliar with?

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:28 pm

MassOfKthulu wrote: Also,running wild black hand inn-anyone is 100% sure that ever came out as an original vinyl or is it just boots of the cd out there?

A friend had contacted Noise back in 1994 asking about a vinyl edition and they replied that none was released.

Sgt. Kuntz · Post by **Sgt. Kuntz** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:08 pm

Khnud wrote:
Sgt. Kuntz wrote:OMEGA (UK) The Prophet
There's a rerelease (bootleg?) of this on some Italian label, but it's easy to tell the difference as far as I know. With them, you know, being different labels and all. Or are there other versions/bootlegs of this I'm unfamiliar with?

No, just the re-issue which i think was not officially released as far as i know.

Another one:
BATHORY . same (yellow goat)

chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:45 pm

Sorry to be a pain, but this thread is about replicas and counterfeits.
This is a very serious thread and to me replicas and counterfeits are a totally different issue than bootlegs.

Black Hand Inn (and many other) LP is a bootleg, it was never released officially on vinyl. So it is easy for people to know that it is just a bootleg and decide to buy it or not. Also unauthorised reissues are bootlegs, but when someone buys the Omega or the Gargoyle etc. knows that they are not first press originals and that they are reissues.

But in my opinion the thread should be concentrated in the fake/counterfeit/replicas LPs.

For example, there are replicas of 2 Motorhead LPs (Overnight Sensation and Snakebit love) in circulation. There are many people that may buy them at expensive prices because there is no easy way to check (or even to know) if they are original or fake replicas (unless you have them both and compare them).

Ryür · Post by **Ryür** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:12 am

Sarcofago - Inri
Exterminator - Total Extermination

From_the_Fjords · Post by **From_the_Fjords** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:31 am

GRAVE DIGGER - TUNES OF WAR LP
Originally released only as picture disc.
Tha black vinyl with sleeve is a bootleg

Also the R A R E 7" of NWOBHM:
Spped - Man in the street
Original label was blue, withotu sleeve but with an insert-sleeve

Two years ago someone made and sold 100 copies with black labels.

Prowler · Post by **Prowler** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:04 am

Or the whole early Def Leppard 7 inches. One can easily lose the survey by all the different editions with different labels and the countless bootlegs.

Khnud · Post by **Khnud** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:23 am

The Soundhouse Tapes, anyone?

chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:37 am

SOLID GROUND - Solid Ground LP
BLACK WIDOW - Sacrifice LP (if i remember correctly)
SORCERY - Sinister Soldiers 2LP

there are many more that i can't remember right now.

From_the_Fjords · Post by **From_the_Fjords** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:52 pm

Khnud wrote:The Soundhouse Tapes, anyone?

too much bootleg of this one now...
picture, coloured, test press...
I have notice of a bootleg of S.T. with the correct matrix number in the run off groove! incredible

Also:
MAIDEN MANIA (the rare Greek box of 5 EP) has been bootlegged!

TWO MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT - 7" japan has been bootlegged (original only black vinyl; I don't know th others difference with the original)

FEAR OF THE DARK LIVE - 12" ITALIAN RAREST EDITION - now bootleg on ebay and rcord fairs (coloured, test press...)

Maiden bootlegs are really increasing now...

From_the_Fjords · Post by **From_the_Fjords** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:14 pm

and last but not least...
the 7" of SWEDISH METAL made in coloured vinyl:

GOTHAM CITY 7"
SILVER MOUNTAIN 7"
HEAVY LOAD FREE 7"
SHAKESPEARE 7"
TORSTEN 7"

I don't remember if were released others 7" in addiction to these

Prowler · Post by **Prowler** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:08 pm

Is there a Medieval Steel boot on the market?

sold just a few weeks ago:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/170920616043?ssP ... 1435.l2649

same guy:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Medieval-Steel-M ... 0616043%26

chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:37 pm

Prowler wrote:Is there a Medieval Steel boot on the market?

sold just a few weeks ago:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/170920616043?ssP ... 1435.l2649

same guy:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Medieval-Steel-M ... 0616043%26

There is no bootleg/replica as far as i know (i think it would be extremely stupid for bootlegers to release a replica of it at this time that the reissue was just released).

The condition of the picture sleeve indicates that it is original.
Propably the first auction was just shill-bidding so the seller relisted it.

And something about the Medieval Steel LP, it is not that rare.
Band members (and manager if i remember correctly) used to have many copies untill a few years back. It's high price was a reflection of it's huge name in the underground metal circles. I remember back in the mid '90s there were a couple of metal-clubs here in Greece that played the Medieval Steel song every night.

TheGreatEscape · Post by **TheGreatEscape** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:50 pm

Prowler wrote:Is there a Medieval Steel boot on the market?

sold just a few weeks ago:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/170920616043?ssP ... 1435.l2649

same guy:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Medieval-Steel-M ... 0616043%26

Don't know, but the Medieval Steel EP is not as rare as you might think ... there was one guy here in Switzerland who had the best connections to the USA back in the 80ies and he always used to have Medieval Steel EP's for sale (this was 20+ years ago, so no doubts about the real thing or not).

This guy alone sold between 50 and 100 copies of MS, maybe even more! I think I got 10-20 copies from him in total over the years and I know other Swiss collectors / traders / dealers that got this amount of copies from him. So the MS EP was very well spread all over Switzerland and I remember one record fair (about 10-12 years ago) when I found 4 or 5 copies of this masterpiece! Back then, it was quite easy to find copies for approx. Swiss Francs 25-35 max (approx. EUR 20-25) and I passed MANY copies because they were priced too high (around EUR 50)!

So I guess the distribution here in Europe wasn't too bad, so I do not wonder if anyone has more than 1 copy of it for sale ...