Bootleg Warning Thread

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:03 pm

stormspell wrote:Avenger, will you please refrain from talking on my behalf please!

I only asked for people not to post suggestions in the RWH thread without being able to provide contacts, so to avoid turning it into endless wish listing. Apart from that, I always appreciate good suggestions.

To get on topic: since Aggressor seems likely to be bootlegged by the Greeks already, I have no interest in it.

All in all, nowadays I'm much more interested in releasing demos/previously unreleased stuff for which I can come with brand new genuine packaging, and would not have to worry about bootlegs and/or first-edition competition.

Sorry, but you did say this here in the past...

Either way, I think you have the right mindset and are going down the right path. Never before released on CD material will definitely pull the money out of my wallet.

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:20 pm

The original Angel Dust - To Dust You Will Decay has a fold out last page of the booklet right? is this the only way to distinguish the latest soviet boot from the org?

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:22 pm

Here is a scan of To Dust... I posted in the thread a while back, if it helps:

perishinflames wrote:oldskoolcollector, here is a larger scan of original To Dust You Will Decay you can compare against yours. I agree it's too small blurry to tell for sure, but you should be able to tell from this:

(certain this is the real one, this scan is from 2008 and they weren't making boots this convincing back then)

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:41 pm

Unfortunately, if you don't have a veeeery good photo of the item being sold, the new bootleg is indistinguishable from the original. I think the only way to tell is by the fold out booklet which the boot doesn't have and I'd like to confirm that.

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:56 pm

Legit re-release from the band or another boot ? Seems this has a EAN code too http://www.ebay.com/itm/Visitor-Visitor ... 2568e02cd0

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:30 pm

Heathen wrote:Unfortunately, if you don't have a veeeery good photo of the item being sold, the new bootleg is indistinguishable from the original. I think the only way to tell is by the fold out booklet which the boot doesn't have and I'd like to confirm that.

Yes, original is a tri-fold (one sheet of paper folded into three sections), with cover/thanx/band pic/credits on one side, and lyrics on the other side.

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:35 pm

perishinflames wrote:
Heathen wrote:Unfortunately, if you don't have a veeeery good photo of the item being sold, the new bootleg is indistinguishable from the original. I think the only way to tell is by the fold out booklet which the boot doesn't have and I'd like to confirm that.
Yes, original is a tri-fold (one sheet of paper folded into three sections), with cover/thanx/band pic/credits on one side, and lyrics on the other side.

Great. Now at least we know what to ask for.

Here is the boot by the way:
http://img20.allegroimg.pl/photos/orygi ... 01103891_1

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:49 pm

Wow, the disc itself does look damn close, from that angle. Here are scans of the original booklet for future reference:

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:44 pm

Helstar wrote:Legit re-release from the band or another boot ? Seems this has a EAN code too http://www.ebay.com/itm/Visitor-Visitor ... 2568e02cd0

Well, Garden Grove, CA is pretty much where the band was hailing from, so it could be legit. The only way is to order it and see if it comes from a band member, or not...

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:14 pm

It's from the band but "legit"? I don't know. Maybe 1 member pressed that again lol.

Zdan · Post by **Zdan** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:42 am

Well the original was also self-released so legit would be the name of the game as no label owns the rights to it. It's for the band to repress if they want to.

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:45 pm

And how do you know if the other members agree or are aware of that??

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:34 am

If you look on youtube official channel, it seems they have reunited and played gigs already ... they also advertise the cd being listed on ebay on the comments. So I guess he's right (probably... we should ask

!)

Ps. You still haven't found the original, right ?

emperor.zola · Post by **emperor.zola** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:15 am

The seller is a member of the band:

E.K. Wright - Bass

Seller info: ekwright13

QED

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:53 pm

Helstar wrote:If you look on youtube official channel, it seems they have reunited and played gigs already ... they also advertise the cd being listed on ebay on the comments. So I guess he's right (probably... we should ask !)

Ps. You still haven't found the original, right ?

I asked the seller directly with no response (he actually cancelled the listing & put it that again later). Secondly, I asked the german guy who bought an (advertised as such) original from the same guy earlier if that was the original but he didn't respond either (he bought from me many times in the past but I can't be in anyone's mind)

PS : You're wrong

I got it through trade. I gave a super rare AOR cd (which I bought for $1) to a Canadian guy. I wish I could find my top wants though, which noone seems to have