newer bands like fates warning, early queensryche, etc?

reindeerattack666 · Post by **reindeerattack666** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:08 am

For years, I steered away from any band branded as "progressive metal" because of my dislike of Symphony X, Evergrey, Pagans Mind, Dream Theater, Communic, etc. Consequently, I didn't bother checking out Fates Warning until a year or so ago, which I'm rather resentful about, considering that "Awaken The Guardian" is probably now my favorite album. Since then, I haven't get enough of this style. To my ears, Fates Warning, early Queensryche (EP and "The Warning" specifically), Crimson Glory, Zions Abyss, Lethal, Slauter Xstroyes, Heir Apparent, Adramelch, etc, have little musical similarity to anything that's commonly termed "progressive metal" today. Quite the opposite, it fits in nicely with Maiden, early Blind Guardian, early Solitude Aeternus (when they were less doomy), Metal Church, Sanctuary, Helstar, early Iced Earth, etc. "Fata Morgana" could be played immediately after "Holy Wars...The Punishment Due" and "Powerslave" and the common theme would be pretty obvious, but if Symphony X's "Divine Wings of Tragedy" were played next, it would stick out like a sore thumb. Fates Warning obviously more progressive than something like Agent Steel, in that it's less simplistic -- there are a greater variety of riffs/leads, timing changes, and other things that I cannot describe due to a lack of familiarity with musical theory -- but the two still sound more similar to me than either do to Dream Theater. The 80s "progressive/power" subgenre actually been a great find for me, as it's provided me with more music akin to the 80s and 90s power metal and proto-power metal that I was already listening to.

Anyway, onto the main question: Are there any newer bands that play the old "progressive/power" style of Fates Warning and Crimson Glory? Basically, I'm looking for aggressive and melodic metal with soaring vocals that's "progressive", but with understated keyboards (or none), no lame riffs that attempt to mimic an orchestral string section, no unnecessary wankery. Does anybody play this style anymore or have all bands unanimously decided to follow the path of Pagan's Mind? 95 percent of modern power metal bands decided to follow the path of "Keepers of the Seven Keys" instead of "Walls of Jericho", but I have found that roughly 5 percent that play the old power metal style that I like -- Twisted Tower Dire, Battleroar, Wolf, Cage (only two albums), Crescent Shield, Metal Inquisitor, etc. Does the progressive metal genre have an equivalent 5 percent that don't suck? I've spent the last hour on YouTube listening to songs by the most popular progressive power metal bands from the last 20 years from their most highly rated albums on rateyourmusic.com, and I think these bands are completely unlistenable. Are there any needles in the haystack?

Warepire · Post by **Warepire** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:18 am

Try the first 2 albums of Shadow Gallery. (S/T and Carved In Stone)

You might also enjoy A Shattered Dream (their only demo 4-D Society was reissued on CD in 2009)

Also try the band Secrecy. (Released 2 albums: Art In Motion and Raging Romance)

sagrotan · Post by **sagrotan** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:46 am

first JACOB'S DREAM is recommended. not too proggy but some Queensrychian vibe is there, particularly vocalswise

awesome alias btw

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:59 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRVNTxhzrls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFGjaCY0 ... re=related

-----> sorry you said newer... That was earlier...

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:10 am

Chances are good you'll like this.

(While Heaven Wept - To Wander the Void)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfUmhX7I4Xg

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:23 pm

reindeerattack666 wrote:unnecessary wankery

This is rather subjective ain't it?

reindeerattack666 · Post by **reindeerattack666** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:39 pm

mordred wrote:Chances are good you'll like this.

(While Heaven Wept - To Wander the Void)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfUmhX7I4Xg

This is good. It's rather amusing that certain epic doom metal bands are more reminiscent of the "Fates Warning style" than bands that are actually termed progressive. I guess "progressive" isn't a sound as much as an approach though, eh?

What are some more "power doom" bands in this vein. I like Solitude Aeturnus' and Candlemass' early albums, but a lot of "epic doom" can be more slow and plodding than I like.

Trigger · Post by **Trigger** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:19 pm

You sound like......me!

Not progressive at all but on the technical side is Enchanter's CD release including their 2 demos,style similar to early Fates stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Rfzl0cFQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kct_vi7B ... st_related

Kingsbane demo is also majestic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAXAvZ9Kh0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv5_07Prz2M

Countless bands in the style you are interested in in the USA...

edit:oops,I just noticed you said "newer bands",sorry...

Divine Victim · Post by **Divine Victim** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:51 pm

reindeerattack666 wrote:
mordred wrote:Chances are good you'll like this.

(While Heaven Wept - To Wander the Void)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfUmhX7I4Xg
This is good. It's rather amusing that certain epic doom metal bands are more reminiscent of the "Fates Warning style" than bands that are actually termed progressive. I guess "progressive" isn't a sound as much as an approach though, eh?

That track is actually specifically dedicated to Fates Warning in the credits, so the influence is very clear!

I find the same mystical feeling in some of the USPM bands such as Syrus, Salem Spade and Chozzen Phate - all of whom have CD reissues of their demos.

Dodens Grav · Post by **Dodens Grav** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:01 pm

reindeerattack666 wrote:What are some more "power doom" bands in this vein. I like Solitude Aeturnus' and Candlemass' early albums, but a lot of "epic doom" can be more slow and plodding than I like.

Try Heathendom.

ElHombredePlatino · Post by **ElHombredePlatino** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:32 pm

I'm not sure if you already know Gehenna from Mex.

Anyway I think Gehenna(Mex) is the most similar to old FW or Adramelch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfbgnl4oGak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7jqUHnU ... re=related

Cauldron born is relatively newer and good and False witness or Sage meridien are also reccomendable.

I also spent a lot of time to look for newer old FW-style band, but it was close to impossible.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:47 am

ElHombredePlatino wrote:I'm not sure if you already know Gehenna from Mex.

Anyway I think Gehenna(Mex) is the most similar to old FW or Adramelch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfbgnl4oGak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7jqUHnU ... re=related

this record is quiet old,hardly "newer"

Speedeceiver · Post by **Speedeceiver** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:28 pm

The band SHADOW KEEP have a strong Crimison Glory vibe to them.

Desolator · Post by **Desolator** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:03 pm

CONSTANTINE from Finland.
http://soundcloud.com/constantineband/

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:08 pm

No mention of ALPHA TIGER in this thread?
Needs to be changed IMMEDIATELY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTbH0mhEzlw

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Alp ... 3540326779

newer bands like fates warning, early queensryche, etc?

newer bands like fates warning, early queensryche, etc?

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