Underestimated German 80's Scene?

DeathStrike Kömmander · Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:29 pm

This is a very interesting thread, I'll add some bands, they're not something outstanding, but I don't consider'em bad, they have some good songs that I listen constantly:

Titan - Only their heavy metal demos, (the technical thrash attempts ain't really good).

Hardware - Great EP

LethylSteel · Post by **LethylSteel** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:33 pm

The problem with the german Metal scene is simply mainly the crap bands released vinyls while the killer bands remained in the demo stage, unheard, undiscovered, unwanted. And to find these demos (and may it be only dubs) is almost impossible. Furthermore when you listen to some of these obscure bands from all genres you start asking why the well known labels signed these bands (Gama stuff) but ignored the outstanding ones instead. Though the Gama and Metal Enterprises catalogue features a hell of local acts that are interesting to listen to but unfortunately exactly these bands with their shitty vocalists stand for the term German Metal. Sad but true ...
Prohably their demos had been better than the final albums? Listen to Saint's Anger demo for example and then compare to the LP (which is cool). The demo is way more aggressive!

The Knell · Post by **The Knell** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:11 pm

demo only bands were shit too e.g.

LethylSteel · Post by **LethylSteel** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:17 pm

There's always a pro and a contra but talking about a german scene and only mention the "5" LP's that were made (compared to the hundreds of better demos) is simply ridiculous imo.

Ernest Thesiger · Post by **Ernest Thesiger** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:06 am

The Knell wrote:demo only bands were shit too e.g.

I'm amused.

The Knell · Post by **The Knell** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:53 pm

Ernest Thesiger wrote:
The Knell wrote:demo only bands were shit too e.g.

I'm amused.

i dont know about the later stuff but the debut demo is total crap metal thread material !

DeathStrike Kömmander · Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:08 pm

MP (Metal Priests) -- albums are really great, specially the first one, Accept - influenced Heavy/Speed Metal.

Poseidon - The Final Gate -- One of my favorite EP's of German Metal[/list]

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:26 am

DeathStrike Kömmander wrote:MP (Metal Priests) -- albums are really great, specially the first one, Accept - influenced Heavy/Speed Metal.

Poseidon - The Final Gate -- One of my favorite EP's of German Metal[/list]

This post does absolutely hit my taste of Heavy Metal, since I've been worshipping both bands for some years now.

LethylSteel · Post by **LethylSteel** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:42 am

But can someone enlight me about Poseidon, the music itself sounds listenable (nothing over the top) but what's the story with the drums? Sounds like a drum computer to my ears though there's a drummer mentioned on the back cover?????

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:35 am

LethylSteel wrote:But can someone enlight me about Poseidon, the music itself sounds listenable (nothing over the top) but what's the story with the drums? Sounds like a drum computer to my ears though there's a drummer mentioned on the back cover?????

I'm not sure about that but just because a name for the "drummer" is listed doesn't mean that the recording on the album is an actual person. If I recall correctly, Running Wild had some accusations surrounding their "drummer" in early 2000. It became some sort of a running gag where other bands were crediting their drums under the same name.

Either way, I haven’t listened to any Poseidon material in ages, so perhaps I should revisit it and make my own decision.

LethylSteel · Post by **LethylSteel** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:38 pm

Same with Varathron's debut album. "Wolfen" the "drummer" sounded very computerish ...

Lama · Post by **Lama** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:26 pm

LethylSteel wrote:Same with Varathron's debut album. "Wolfen" the "drummer" sounded very computerish ...

A lot of early 90s Greek black metal releases had that problem.

Chafe · Post by **Chafe** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:22 am

Well, a few days ago I read the entire topic and downloaded (shame on me) some recommendations.
So far I've listened to Metal Sword, Abraxas and Battlefield. Metal Sword was OK, nothing special, guess I'll listen them again later. The Battlefield EP is great, although there's one riff that's IDENTICAL to an (early) Slayer one. Abraxas is great too, how about their other albums?, are those any good?

LethylSteel · Post by **LethylSteel** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:10 pm

You should try the Arrakis Demo 1988. It contains prohably the best German Metal that was ever recorded!
Also just recently bought the Megace - "Sign of the ape" demo and it's just fucking awesome Speed/Thrash. Their debut has nothing in common with their 80's demos. It's a shame!

Trigger · Post by **Trigger** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:43 pm

Chafe wrote:Well, a few days ago I read the entire topic and downloaded (shame on me) some recommendations.
So far I've listened to Metal Sword, Abraxas and Battlefield. Metal Sword was OK, nothing special, guess I'll listen them again later. The Battlefield EP is great, although there's one riff that's IDENTICAL to an (early) Slayer one. Abraxas is great too, how about their other albums?, are those any good?

Good but different good,more modern and a tad worse than the debut imo.