Bootleg Warning Thread

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:14 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/DEATHROW-DECEPTION- ... 45fbb9af1d

http://cgi.ebay.com/DEATHROW-LIFE-BEYON ... 45fbb9b170

The new boots look so good that I can clearly see that so many people take the bait. We are quickly getting to a point where all valuable CDs have their identical bootlegs,

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:56 pm

Everything he sells is a boot ? He has also that Holy Terror on UOF ... these all come from Russia or an ex Russia country right ?

Along with many others, I don't understand what's with the VR cds, are they so rare ? Bah

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:50 pm

Helstar wrote:I don't understand what's with the VR cds, are they so rare ? Bah

I have doubts about the self titled CD, but the other two are of course boots. the self titled is common and cheap, the others are semi-rare...

What is important is that musically "Digital Dictator" is simply magnificient!

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:06 am

Until "Word of Mouth" (included) they are all magnificient

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:21 pm

No more doubts for the new boots...

http://music.shop.ebay.com/CDs-/307/i.h ... p=10&_sc=1

Ok he's fair because he specifies it clearly, but how come he has ALL of those, so quickly ?

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:53 pm

If there are any "fair" bootlegs then those are the ones that do not even pretend to be something they are not, like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DEATHROW-Deception- ... HOP:US:101

mega_lodon · Post by **mega_lodon** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:26 pm

Helstar wrote:No more doubts for the new boots...

http://music.shop.ebay.com/CDs-/307/i.h ... p=10&_sc=1

Ok he's fair because he specifies it clearly, but how come he has ALL of those, so quickly ?

He seems honest, all right. I just hope the people who buy those boots from him now and later resell them can be same honest too.

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:10 pm

Hey, I agree with you... also, it can of course happen that you buy boots in error (happened to me too, 3 times !) and then you have to trade/sell them by clearly specifying it, but how often can it occur ?

This guy has always LOTS of boots to sell ! It's not honest anymore this way. Sure, it's more fair compared to all those sellers who don't give a s**t at all (sometimes you can only read "later pressing" or "reissue" and that's it), but really "honest", I don't know

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:13 pm

Helstar wrote:This guy has always LOTS of boots to sell ! It's not honest anymore this way.

"Always" might be overreaching, it hasn't been until recently that he's sold any bootlegs that weren't just out of his collection. I don't know what the story is with these new boots, but I've dealt with him many times over the years (both buying and selling) and he's always been 100% honest and reliable.

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:33 pm

What I was saying is that when new boots are out, he is always the second one to sell them ^^ (happened with Protector's, then Holy Terror, and now Deathrow's...)

And that happens without a long distance in days with the first batch on sell from the first seller (the original bootleger probably)

That (with the fact he has many of these boots) means he has "connections", get it ?

Ps. This has nothing to do with being reliable or not eh...

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:55 pm

perishinflames wrote:
Helstar wrote:This guy has always LOTS of boots to sell ! It's not honest anymore this way.
"Always" might be overreaching, it hasn't been until recently that he's sold any bootlegs that weren't just out of his collection. I don't know what the story is with these new boots, but I've dealt with him many times over the years (both buying and selling) and he's always been 100% honest and reliable.

Easy money is hard to resist. It looks like he's deep in the bootleg business nowdays.

mega_lodon · Post by **mega_lodon** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:35 pm

He's honest about his auctions on ebay but you'll never know what he's doing with the boots outside ebay.

But then it could be just because he wanted to learn the difference between originals and boots so he bought those boots from the makers. He sell them away after gaining the knowledge. Of course, this is not true if he's selling the same boot titles repeatedly.

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:25 pm

I won't justify it, dealing in bootlegs is certainly bad practice. But...

Heathen wrote:Easy money is hard to resist

Have you looked at his completed listings? Hardly making millions here, in fact barely looks worth the time spent for listing them

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:37 pm

I said easy, not big

Yakish · Post by **Yakish** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:12 am

Relax guys! As i said before, he is just selling boots, but not manufactured them, believe me, it's proof information directly from him. Selling boots every time it's just kind of calculation with other people who are not able to pay off debts.