Bootleg Warning Thread

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:58 pm

I don't want to know what does that greek stuff mean, I can already imagine it

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:04 am

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
Avenger wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:steel assassin had the permission.
That's bullshit.

Unisound like nearly every single other release the shitty label has ever put out bootlegged the CD from the self-released disc that the band put out back in 1997 on "GME Records".
Why don't you fuck up yourself bastard son? Find a woman & stop masturbating ALL DAY & NIGHT! Phil Grasso himself wrote me that a few years ago that Unisound has paid him royalities for the cd, DO YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE BOSS OF THAT BAND? YOU ARE NOTHING! Turning around on forum bullshitting constantly trying to "prove" that you are a metal "father" can't hide your inferiority complexes.

ΑΕΙ ΓΑΜΗΣΟΥ ΜΑΛΑΚΑ ΜΑΣ ΤΑ ΕΧΕΙΣ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΛΑΝΗΤΕΣ!!!

Are you done crying yet?

Truth hurts.

Prove your claims.

Oh, and while I'm at it, Unisound is garbage.

slayerhatesusall · Post by **slayerhatesusall** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:40 pm

This one just got bootlegged about a month ago or so.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TORCH-Torch-1984-CD ... 5adf0fb637

Even the ones on amazon are bootlegs, well the 2 20$ copies are:
http://www.amazon.com/Torch/dp/B00000DT ... 240&sr=1-1

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:43 pm

Avenger wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
Avenger wrote: That's bullshit.

Unisound like nearly every single other release the shitty label has ever put out bootlegged the CD from the self-released disc that the band put out back in 1997 on "GME Records".
Why don't you fuck up yourself bastard son? Find a woman & stop masturbating ALL DAY & NIGHT! Phil Grasso himself wrote me that a few years ago that Unisound has paid him royalities for the cd, DO YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE BOSS OF THAT BAND? YOU ARE NOTHING! Turning around on forum bullshitting constantly trying to "prove" that you are a metal "father" can't hide your inferiority complexes.

ΑΕΙ ΓΑΜΗΣΟΥ ΜΑΛΑΚΑ ΜΑΣ ΤΑ ΕΧΕΙΣ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΛΑΝΗΤΕΣ!!!
Are you done crying yet?

Truth hurts.

Prove your claims.

Oh, and while I'm at it, Unisound is garbage.

Prove that you are not masturbating on Sundays!

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:29 pm

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:Prove that you are not masturbating on Sundays!

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:35 pm

perishinflames wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:Prove that you are not masturbating on Sundays!

Look, a kind guy asked about the Steel Assassin cd & if the unisound press (European+Japanese edition/version) is a legal one. I told him that it's a legal one because PT has paid royalties to PG for the cd. He thanked me & all the other things are history. Your friend didn't drink his cup of coffee back in that day so he jumped like a fart as usual spreading his usual crap. Got it?

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:03 am

Sure, whatever. Just the "masturbating on Sunday" comment went over my head. Is this some kind of faux paus?

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:09 am

perishinflames wrote:Sure, whatever. Just the "masturbating on Sunday" comment went over my head. Is this some kind of faux paus?

It must be…

Random irrelevant statements seem to be his specialty.

mega_lodon · Post by **mega_lodon** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:16 pm

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:steel assassin had the permission.

Hmm, didn’t King Fowley go around telling people he had some kind of permission from the band members for those CDs he re-released via Old Metal Records? Still people call those CDs “bootleg”…. I don’t understand.

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:33 pm

mega_lodon wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:steel assassin had the permission.
Hmm, didn’t King Fowley go around telling people he had some kind of permission from the band members for those CDs he re-released via Old Metal Records? Still people call those CDs “bootleg”…. I don’t understand.

If you say that you are straight & not gay I won't believe you. If your wife says the same I will believe her. Got me now?

Edit----> (as it seems some guys here have serious problems in mind) : The band said that they gave the permission to Unisound Records (and Unisound paid for royalties) not the opposite. If you can't understand this simple thing try a new brain.

mega_lodon · Post by **mega_lodon** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:59 pm

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
mega_lodon wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:steel assassin had the permission.
Hmm, didn’t King Fowley go around telling people he had some kind of permission from the band members for those CDs he re-released via Old Metal Records? Still people call those CDs “bootleg”…. I don’t understand.
If you say that you are straight & not gay I won't believe you. If your wife says the same I will believe her. Got me now?

Edit----> (as it seems some guys here have serious problems in mind) : The band said that they gave the permission to Unisound Records (and Unisound paid for royalties) not the opposite. If you can't understand this simple thing try a new brain.

Ha, that's a good one.

The thing is, as far as I know, usually bands only own the rights to the music but not the records. They can go ahead and re-record their songs with other labels no problem. But if anyone wants to re-release the original records, he/she needs to obtain a license from the original rights owner (ie, the label). That's why after so many years we haven't seen an official reissue of "Ample Destruction" (not counting the Metal Blade version), guess what's holding them? Correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case of Steel Assassin, the Unisound reissue is wholly endorsed by the band but it's still a question whether or not it is a 100% legit release (unless the band told you they had already bought the rights from the original label).

By the way, I have nothing against Unsiound, they used to be a cool label back in the Black/Death Metal days... The SA reissues they did them respectably so they deserve the support. Yeah, fuck those legal matters.

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:12 am

The key word is "usually". Of course we can't make a discussion about any possible release. The Steel Assassin cd was demo stuff who could have the rights other than Phil Grasso & his own label (GME). That would be a good idea to ask himself if he allows to give the rights for the specific release LOL!

Look, I don't want to be offensive but if you have questions if it's 100% legit release it's your problem. If your opinion disagree with the reality it's not reality's problem LOL!

Now if I tell you that the Madd Hunter cd didn't have the permission at first (I don't know what happened in the end) your buddy Avenger will jump out like a fart saying "I was right about Unisound!!!". The point is that someone asked for the specific SA cd, I told him the truth, he thanked me & that's it. Do you think that I'm with Unisound because I said that the guy has paid for royalties for the SPECIFIC CD? Sorry my IQ is high enough to make such conversations. I can't deal with rumors, silly thoughts or farts.

mega_lodon · Post by **mega_lodon** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:37 am

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:The key word is "usually". Of course we can't make a discussion about any possible release. The Steel Assassin cd was demo stuff who could have the rights other than Phil Grasso & his own label (GME). That would be a good idea to ask himself if he allows to give the rights for the specific release LOL!

If it's the band's own label, then the Unisound reissue most likely is a legit release. Your answer clears the air.

I have the GME CD for years now but still haven't gotten the chance to listen to it. Guess it's about time to give it a spin.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:32 am

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:The band said that they gave the permission to Unisound Records (and Unisound paid for royalties) not the opposite. If you can't understand this simple thing try a new brain.

Proof please.

Nebuchadnezzar · Post by **Nebuchadnezzar** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:47 pm

Avenger wrote:
Nebuchadnezzar wrote:The band said that they gave the permission to Unisound Records (and Unisound paid for royalties) not the opposite. If you can't understand this simple thing try a new brain.
Proof please.

I need proof that you are not gay.

Μήνυμα: 4 / 66
Ημ/νία: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:43:23 -0500
Από: Phil Grasso <GMEDIST@comcast.net>

Προς: sorti89@freemail.gr

Θέμα: Re: Steel Assassin
Εμφάνιση κεφαλίδων
I told him NOT to release that CD. He released the STEEL ASSASSIN CD
with my permission, and paid me for it. But he kept delaying the
release of the MADD HUNTER CD, until it he breeched the contract. And
we got into an argument over it until I told him Not to release the
CD, and to keep his $$ that he would have owed me for it. Here's what
I want you to do as a favor to me: I want you to send me that CD, or
at least buy me another one. I want to know where you bought it,
etc.. I have only two copies left of the original pressing of the
M.H. CD "Silence of The Lamb". I will trade you one of those for the
one you have. I'll also send you a copy of the first M.H. CD as well.
I don't mind that the guy released it, but he owes me $750.00 for it,
so I need proof that he released it so I can go after him.. Here's my
address:
Phil Grasso
325 Commercial St.
Whitman, MA 02382 USA
Thanks for the help.

---> And yes I just made this email from my mind.