Japanese Invasion has begun !!(Plz dont upload more albums)

Post by **DaN** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:03 am

It would be cool to finally get to hear CRY-MAX (I'm so behind...

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I already have one ROMMEL-demo but I'm not sure if it's the first or second. The rest would be great to hear anyway. Besides that I'm open for recommendations.

omen of hate · Post by **omen of hate** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:38 am

It would be great to hear the 2 others ROMMEL demos.

FenderMedium · Post by **FenderMedium** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:39 am

Is it alright if I put the first two bow wow albums here? The are from 76 and 77 but they are ahead of their time some what they are a mixture of hard rock and heavy metal I suppose, I don't want to post them if its gonna be a problem.

Post by **DaN** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:37 am

FenderMedium wrote:Is it alright if I put the first two bow wow albums here? The are from 76 and 77 but they are ahead of their time some what they are a mixture of hard rock and heavy metal I suppose, I don't want to post them if its gonna be a problem.

I head the BOW WOW debut for the first time quite recently at a friend's place. Suprisingly raw & catchy stuff, not nearly as pubrockish as I'd expected. It seems like the albums are available on CD as Japan imports. Not that it would seem to be a big deal to upload age-old major label stuff like this, but I'd rather try to be consistant with my own rules here.

sabbat666 · Post by **sabbat666** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:03 am

omen of hate wrote:It would be great to hear the 2 others ROMMEL demos.

I'm rather sorry about this. but i cannot release these demotapes. and i just have to ask people to not relelase them if possible.
The vocalist/guitarist of Rommel is my oldest friend in Japan (about 8 years now) and i made a promise to him not to spread his stuff around. he really just wants people to forget about his old bands and feels ashamed of them. so he asked me to try to help him stop these kinds of trade outside of Japan, as he cannot speak English at all.
I know i cant force any of you guys to do anything but we are just asking a favor.

Rommel, Gyorai, and Emperor (japanese, the original Emperor) are the only bands i cannot distribute stuff of.

I can upload crymax though and will do so soon as my school is finished now. i already made mp3's direct from my record. just gott finnish taking out a few pops and scan the coverart.

FenderMedium · Post by **FenderMedium** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:15 pm

Nobody has a copyright on information and as far as I'm concerned sound files are information.

Here's a tip: if you don't want to be known (on the Internet or otherwise), don't record music. Don't release it publicly.

Post by **DaN** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:33 pm

sabbat666 wrote:The vocalist/guitarist of Rommel is my oldest friend in Japan (about 8 years now) and i made a promise to him not to spread his stuff around. he really just wants people to forget about his old bands and feels ashamed of them. so he asked me to try to help him stop these kinds of trade outside of Japan, as he cannot speak English at all.
I know i cant force any of you guys to do anything but we are just asking a favor.

That's a tricky situation. I'm sure there's a lot of old obscure demo stuff shared in places like this where the original artists wouldn't want anyone to hear. Some for copyright reasons but perhaps even more often because they think their old teenage sins stink to high heaven. Trying to convince these people that you actually think their old recordings kick ass despite the rough edges and that you're not just taking the piss can be quite difficult. Tom Warrior's opinion on HELLHAMMER is a good example.

And it's true what they say: once it's on the internet it will never go away. After all they made this thing to withstand a nuclear holocaust.

Hellride Mike · Post by **Hellride Mike** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:26 pm

I guess I'd be curious to hear some more opinions from the board before posting those Rommel demos. Vol. 1 is definitely out there already to a fair extent on the net. I did put vol.'s 2&3 up at Miskatonic following through on an offer, but have never seen them elsewhere on the net.

Is it much worse to have all 3 if one is already around? I'm considering putting tehm up here so as not to be a tease, and then I'm perefectly willing to to cease any transmission of them. Perhaps we could agree that they stay among the members here?

I'm curious to hear some opinions...

FenderMedium · Post by **FenderMedium** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:09 pm

Hellride Mike wrote:Is it much worse to have all 3 if one is already around? I'm considering putting them up here so as not to be a tease, and then I'm perefectly willing to to cease any transmission of them. Perhaps we could agree that they stay among the members here?
I'm curious to hear some opinions...

Far too many new members invading just for the mp3's for that to work out I assume.

Post by **DaN** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:25 pm

The only really valid reasons for not uploading anything here would be if it's commecially available and the band is getting ripped off by it, or possibly if the recording is very rare, not yet in circulation and very likely to be bootlegged.

The special thing about ROMMEL is that I can see how an old member might not like the idea of being reminded of their youthful Nazi-flirtations (which I can't imagine were that serious or politically motivated). On the other hand I think most people would 'get the joke' so to speak.

No offical ROMMEL-ban from admin anyways, but you can still take sabbat666's request in consideration and try not to put it up on filesharing networks etc..

sabbat666 · Post by **sabbat666** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:21 pm

yeah as i said i know i cant force anyone to do anything. this is just a request from a good friend of mine who also happens to be a member.
Rommel was politically motivated however they were against the Japanese govt. they were not anti semetic and that was just an image they had. it was the same for Emperor (both guitarists post Rommel band), though to a lessor extent.

humus · Post by **humus** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:07 pm

Tricky situation. I have very few material which I was asked not to copy for anyone but that request came from the band directly. The fact that you got it from a source other than the band indicates that is is already out 'there'.

It might be possible to keep new music off the internet, if you only give it to people you know and trust, but these demo's who are what, 20 years old, have already been spread and in my opinion it is just a matter of time 'till they will be widely available. The longer the internet exists the more stuff becomes available, I even downloaded the Archenemy rehearsal from Miskatonic this week, a few years ago I never thought I would be able to find that one, let alone download it.

As I see it, they will become available one time, if not now than in a few years maximum. It's just inevitable.

Noisenik · Post by **Noisenik** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:25 pm

To paraphrase Mr. Medium: if you don't want to be heard do not record music, or do that in total isolation, if that's possible. Once it gets known ...

To share via pms is not bad idea though ...

Hellride Mike · Post by **Hellride Mike** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:18 am

O.K. Here's what I'll do. The two people that requested them I'll PM a link to and then that will be the end of my distributing it.

FenderMedium · Post by **FenderMedium** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:53 pm

Noisenik wrote:To paraphrase Mr. Medium: if you don't want to be heard do not record music, or do that in total isolation, if that's possible. Once it gets known ...

To share via pms is not bad idea though ...

My post was more in response to a bulletin once at metal archives, it seems at one time alot of people were asking them to delete their old bands they were ashamed of.