Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:03 pm
I'd like to hear what exactly is it with matrix of the CD that Avenger has that makes him think its a boot.
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The matrix text is slightly smaller and a slightly different font then all of the other "LORDISC" Aurophon CD's. The spacing isn't right. The matrix sequence does not match the others as "DIGIP" is missing. You can't really see from the scan but the rings in the clear center hub are jagged and not perfect circles. The graphics on the top of the disc are uneven and don't have smooth edges.Heathen wrote:I'd like to hear what exactly is it with matrix of the CD that Avenger has that makes him think its a boot.
If you take the disc and flex it a bit beween your fingers it feels cheap too. Like I said, it's very close but I think this is a bootleg.Heathen wrote:I admit I can't explain why the "DIGIP" part is missing. You left me with a feeling that it can be a boot after all.
Here is a photo of my copy. Looks damn convincing if you ask me...
Different cd, but my copy of Sacrifice- on the altar of rock cd on aurophon has pretty much the exact same matrix design as that, same design, same font size, only difference is the number in matrix is 031705 1. There is no "DIGIP" in its matrix.Heathen wrote:I admit I can't explain why the "DIGIP" part is missing. You left me with a feeling that it can be a boot after all.
Here is a photo of my copy. Looks damn convincing if you ask me...
My copy is different from this one.slayerhatesusall2 wrote:Different cd, but my copy of Sacrifice- on the altar of rock cd on aurophon has pretty much the exact same matrix design as that, same design, same font size, only difference is the number in matrix is 031705 1. There is no "DIGIP" in its matrix.Heathen wrote:I admit I can't explain why the "DIGIP" part is missing. You left me with a feeling that it can be a boot after all.
Here is a photo of my copy. Looks damn convincing if you ask me...
Just because they managed to get the font partically right doesn't mean it's legit. You are also comparing two different labels here. Does the "Deathsquad" disc not feel cheap to you?Heathen wrote:OK, I am again *almost* sure that the CD is original. proof? it's matrix is every detail (except for what's is written on it, of course) identical to many CDs that were pressed in the same year and are known to be 100% original. Here is an example, you can compare it to the photo I posted a few posts back. This is Hexenhaus - The Edge Of Eternity:
Everyone who says the Death Squad pressed by Lordisc is a boot because the matrix looks bad is also saying that this Hexenhaus is a boot (as the matrix is the same).
How would you know it's a bootleg if it's completely identical.Heathen wrote:To this day no boot has matrix identical (or similar to such degree) to any legitimate CD matrix circa 1990. This would be the only known exception and I am not buying it.
You do know that MPO (France) and Lordisc are two different plants, right?Heathen wrote:Its not that the "font" is "partially" right, all is identical. Those two statements are fundamentally different. The font, the stripes, the circles, the light reflections, the rectangular objects on both sides of matrix text - everything is, or seems to me anyway, identical.
To this day no boot has matrix identical (or similar to such degree) to any legitimate CD matrix circa 1990. This would be the only known exception and I am not buying it.
Because the cd pressing plant in Hannover was built by Philips following their initial specification of 60 minute capacity, and it took them awhile to update it to accommodate the 74 min format. It was a technical limitation at the time and those 2-on-1 had to be shortened to 60 minutes.Yakish wrote:Many questions about old CDs will stay unanswered, until someone who was related in producing them back in those ancient days can tell us.
For example:
Why 2 on 1 versions of Gravestone and Stormwitch on Scratch Records (Japan) or 2 on 1 Artillery on Roadrunner version omitted tracks?
Some pressing plants will let you specify your own "Mirror band ID", others will simply use the album/title of the project. In either case you do not have control over font / position / spacing /extra parts and/or numbering the pressing plant may add on their own.Prowler wrote:But I remember that you as band/label can ask for the glass matrix. Since you've paid for it, it's legally yours.