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Help me tell if my cd's are legitimate originals
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:36 am
by mordred
So I thought I would try to investigate the authenticity of some of my OOP cd's. Mostly thrash metal albums from the late 80's and early 90's. I've never been a serious collector of rare cd's so I've never bothered with telling originals from replicas since I never paid up good cash for many discs anyway.
I don't even know if there are known bootleg replicas of any of these, nor do I know if any of the originals are particularly hard or expensive to obtain, so any input is helpful. Are there boots of them? If so, how do I tell if mine's an original?
These were all purchased between 2002 and 2007 circa. None of them are presently for sale but some of them might be in the future if I decide to replace them with vinyls or even cd reissues.
A.R.G. - One World Without the End (Black Mark Productions)
Artillery - By Inheritance (Roadracer)
Chroming Rose - Louis XIV (EMI/Electrola)
Dethrone - Let the Day Begin (Under One Flag)
Dyoxen - First Among Equals (Cargo)
Evildead - The Underworld (Steamhammer)
Exodus - Impact Is Imminent (Capitol)
Fallen Angel - Faith Fails (Massacre)
Grinder - Nothing Is Sacred (Noise)
Hades - If At First You Don't Succeed (Medusa)
Headhunter - Parody of Life (CBH)
Hexenhaus - A Tribute to Insanity (Metal Blade)
Lääz Rockit - Nothing's Sacred (Pony Canyon Japan press)
Living Death - Killing in Action (IRS)
Mezzrow - Then Came the Killing (Active)
Poltergeist - Behind the Mask (Century Media)
Poltergeist - Nothing Lasts Forever (Teichiku Japan press)
Powermad - Absolute Power (Reprise)
Sacrifice - Forward to Termination (Metal Blade)
Sacrifice - Soldiers of Misfortune (Metal Blade)
Slammer - Nightmare Scenario (Heavy Metal Records)
Toranaga - God's Gift (Chrysalis)
Re: Help me tell if my cd's are legitimate originals
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:01 am
by Avenger
mordred wrote:
Dethrone - Let the Day Begin (Under One Flag)
Grinder - Nothing Is Sacred (Noise)
Hexenhaus - A Tribute to Insanity (Metal Blade)
Lääz Rockit - Nothing's Sacred (Pony Canyon Japan press)
Living Death - Killing in Action (IRS)
Poltergeist - Behind the Mask (Century Media)
There are bootlegs of these. The Dethrone, Hexenhaus and Laaz Rockit already had bootlegs in the mid 2000's where as if the others were bought before 2007 then you are safe.
The way to tell is the usual Matrix area of the disc and overall pressing quality.
If you post high quality scans of the playing side of the discs then I would be more then happy to confirm if they are legit or not.
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:19 am
by mordred
Thanks. I should be safe on Poltergeist and Grinder then because I bought those in 2002. Living Death was later, possibly as late as autumn 2007. I will try to get scans of that, Hexenhaus, Dethrone and Lääz Rockit then.
So are any of these any rare/expensive or do they all fall in the 15-30 USD category?
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:32 am
by Troma
Arg, Dethrone and Living Death can go up to 60-80$ if they are original
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:57 pm
by Helstar
Also Powermad and Exodus have been bootleged if I'm not wrong.
Didn't know about Dethrone ?
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:43 am
by MEXDefenderOfSteel
i have Toranaga-God´s Gift Cd on Chrysalis,actually my booklet has a cut in the corner,if you need a scan let me know, to me looks legit. I dont know about existing boots around on this one
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:52 am
by Avenger
Helstar wrote:Also Powermad and Exodus have been bootleged if I'm not wrong.
Didn't know about Dethrone ?
This is true but the originals are high in number and easy to find.
Feel free to post these as well mordred.
I'll quote you prices for legit copies of each in the next day or two.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:43 pm
by mordred
OK here are scans of the playing surfaces.
Dethrone - Let the Day Begin:
Hexenhaus - A Tribute to insanity:
Lääz Rockit - Nothing's Sacred:
Living Death - Killing in Action:
Thanks for the help.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:16 pm
by Yakish
Don't have anything in collection, but all seems absolutely legit to me
Re: Help me tell if my cd's are legitimate originals
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:46 pm
by c4d4v3r
I own these in my collection
A.R.G. - One World Without the End (Black Mark Productions)
Artillery - By Inheritance (Roadracer)
Chroming Rose - Louis XIV (EMI/Electrola)
Dethrone - Let the Day Begin (Under One Flag)
Dyoxen - First Among Equals (Cargo) i not remeber now, my copy maybe is on Active Rec
Evildead - The Underworld (Steamhammer)
Exodus - Impact Is Imminent (Capitol)
Grinder - Nothing Is Sacred (Noise)
Hades - If At First You Don't Succeed (Medusa)
Headhunter - Parody of Life (CBH)
Hexenhaus - A Tribute to Insanity (Metal Blade)
Lääz Rockit - Nothing's Sacred (Pony Canyon Japan press)
Living Death - Killing in Action (IRS)
Mezzrow - Then Came the Killing (Active)
Poltergeist - Behind the Mask (Century Media)
Poltergeist - Nothing Lasts Forever (No Japan Release)
Powermad - Absolute Power (Reprise)
Sacrifice - Forward to Termination (Metal Blade) my copy is on Fringe
Sacrifice - Soldiers of Misfortune (Metal Blade) my copy is on Fringe
Slammer - Nightmare Scenario (Heavy Metal Records)
Toranaga - God's Gift (Chrysalis)
maybe i can help you. if you write matrix codes close to the titles, i can confirm you if they coincide
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:59 am
by Avenger
mordred wrote:OK here are scans of the playing surfaces.
Dethrone - Let the Day Begin:
Hexenhaus - A Tribute to insanity:
Lääz Rockit - Nothing's Sacred:
Living Death - Killing in Action:
Thanks for the help.
These are all legit.
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:09 am
by Avenger
Prices as promised:
A.R.G. - One World Without the End (Black Mark Productions) - $70-85 USD
Artillery - By Inheritance (Roadracer) - $30-40 USD
Chroming Rose - Louis XIV (EMI/Electrola) - $20-30 USD
Dethrone - Let the Day Begin (Under One Flag) - $50-65 USD
Dyoxen - First Among Equals (Cargo) - $30-40 USD
Evildead - The Underworld (Steamhammer) - $25-35 USD
Exodus - Impact Is Imminent (Capitol) - $25-35 USD
Fallen Angel - Faith Fails (Massacre) - $30-40 USD
Grinder - Nothing Is Sacred (Noise) - $20-35 USD
Hades - If At First You Don't Succeed (Medusa) - $35-40 USD
Headhunter - Parody of Life (CBH) - $30-35 USD
Hexenhaus - A Tribute to Insanity (Metal Blade) - $50-75 USD
Lääz Rockit - Nothing's Sacred (Pony Canyon Japan press) - $40-55 USD
Living Death - Killing in Action (IRS) - $70-100 USD
Mezzrow - Then Came the Killing (Active) - $40-60 USD
Poltergeist - Behind the Mask (Century Media) - $30-40 USD
Poltergeist - Nothing Lasts Forever (Teichiku Japan press) - $30-40 USD
Powermad - Absolute Power (Reprise) - $20-30 USD
Sacrifice - Forward to Termination (Metal Blade) - $65-85 USD
Sacrifice - Soldiers of Misfortune (Metal Blade) - $35-45 USD
Slammer - Nightmare Scenario (Heavy Metal Records) - $20-25 USD
Toranaga - God's Gift (Chrysalis) $25-35 USD
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:55 pm
by mordred
Thanks for the help and advice guys. I was thinking Hexenhaus might have been a bootleg with how the matrix area looked, good to hear it's not.
Dethrone, Hexenhaus and Living Death are for sale immediately as I will be looking to replace them with vinyl copies. Interested parties feel free to get in touch.
I might also consider replacing A.R.G. with a vinyl in the future if I run into it on vinyl, but the other cd's will probably stay in my collection, at least for the time being.
Cheers!
Re: Help me tell if my cd's are legitimate originals
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:54 pm
by GJ
Avenger wrote:If you post high quality scans of the playing side of the discs then I would be more then happy to confirm if they are legit or not.
Why do you always have to be such an arrogant bastard!

Re: Help me tell if my cd's are legitimate originals
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:23 am
by Avenger
GJ wrote:Avenger wrote:If you post high quality scans of the playing side of the discs then I would be more then happy to confirm if they are legit or not.
Why do you always have to be such an arrogant bastard!

Apparently I'm incapable of doing any good.
