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Voivod was modernist
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:38 pm
by Helm
it should read 'uncompromising war on metallic post-modernism!' in the banner.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:41 pm
by DaN
I interpret "modernism" as keeping up with the times and beyond just for the sake of it. VOIVOD were never that pretentious imo. They were a Metal band who just wanted to incorporate some Dark Progressive Rock (VDG Generator, Magma etc..) elements in their music and had a thing for sci-fi/futurist themes.
'Post-modern Metal' sounds like a paradox to me. Not sure exactly what sounds and what bands that would include.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:08 pm
by Helm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-modernism
Sorry if that's presumptuous, you didn't seem familiar with the philosophical usages of these terms.
Most modern metal is post-modern. A lack of sincerity, clear message and direct emotion, frequent use of irony, and a complete disconnect with the concept of 'originality' are strong traits of post-modern art. More or less what you hate in modern metal, no?
Modernism is a very hopeful movement in relation.
Modernism is a trend of thought that affirms the power of human beings to create, improve, and reshape their environment, with the aid of scientific knowledge, technology and practical experimentation, and is thus in its essence both progressive and optimistic.
Voivod!!
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:19 pm
by Noisenik
AGREE!!!
to state it simply:
Modernism = content
Post-modernism = form
Choose.
I only don't know how to characterize their latest releases. Yet it seems to me they're trying to be subversive to contemporary scene.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:31 pm
by Helm
Not really familiar with the later stuff to tell, but haven't they devolved into basically a 'well meaning' rock and roll band?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:58 pm
by Noisenik
"Well-meaning Stoner whatever". Perhaps. One can still hear it's them though.