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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:15 pm
by doomedplanet
For the sake of the guys that responded to this portion of the post. I know for a fact that at least 1 of the crazy and irrational cd collectors that came to this forum is directly responsible for driving a lot of serious oldschool metalheads away from visiting and contributing to this forum. I'm sure you know who I speak of.
mordred wrote: As for caring about Dan's views or not, he is the sole creator of this website and its forum. The Corroseum is entirely dedicated to vinyl collecting (just look at his album reviews, the label discographies or the compilation albums archive) and as was the forum to begin with. The cd direction of the forum was developed much later on by a clique of visitors that were drawn here by the kind of music that was discussed. Dan let it happen, which he didn't have too. He could easily have said he didn't want any of that on his forum because he called the shots all along and he doesn't care about cd collecting one bit personally.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:08 pm
by Lama
doomedplanet wrote:For the sake of the guys that responded to this portion of the post. I know for a fact that at least 1 of the crazy and irrational cd collectors that came to this forum is directly responsible for driving a lot of serious oldschool metalheads away from visiting and contributing to this forum. I'm sure you know who I speak of.
mordred wrote: As for caring about Dan's views or not, he is the sole creator of this website and its forum. The Corroseum is entirely dedicated to vinyl collecting (just look at his album reviews, the label discographies or the compilation albums archive) and as was the forum to begin with. The cd direction of the forum was developed much later on by a clique of visitors that were drawn here by the kind of music that was discussed. Dan let it happen, which he didn't have too. He could easily have said he didn't want any of that on his forum because he called the shots all along and he doesn't care about cd collecting one bit personally.
Agreed, but here the person is the problem, not cd-buyers in general, right?

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:17 pm
by thrashidolatry
Lama wrote:
doomedplanet wrote:For the sake of the guys that responded to this portion of the post. I know for a fact that at least 1 of the crazy and irrational cd collectors that came to this forum is directly responsible for driving a lot of serious oldschool metalheads away from visiting and contributing to this forum. I'm sure you know who I speak of.
mordred wrote: As for caring about Dan's views or not, he is the sole creator of this website and its forum. The Corroseum is entirely dedicated to vinyl collecting (just look at his album reviews, the label discographies or the compilation albums archive) and as was the forum to begin with. The cd direction of the forum was developed much later on by a clique of visitors that were drawn here by the kind of music that was discussed. Dan let it happen, which he didn't have too. He could easily have said he didn't want any of that on his forum because he called the shots all along and he doesn't care about cd collecting one bit personally.
Agreed, but here the person is the problem, not cd-buyers in general, right?
I don't see a problem here. If you don't like the 'Collector Porn - CD'-thread, don't look it up, I'm sure nobody wants to offend anyone with their posts.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:51 pm
by mordred
For the love of whatever.

Maybe this is it. The final sign I should just give up this forum for good (which I probably would have done years ago if it hadn't been owned by a friend of mine). It feels as if whenever I get into something everybody has a much later sign-up date than me, nobody thinks of The Corroseum the way I do and people don't even seem to grasp anything I'm writing unless it's a matrix number. Maybe I have no place here anymore. I might be just a remnant of the old cast when the forum meant something else. Who knows.

I was just bloody trying to write something humorous for a laugh. I even put two bloody smileys in the same post just to be sure the tone came across but that didn't help much. Maybe it wasn't funny at all but surely nothing to be offended by. That's what I thought anyway.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:56 pm
by Trigger
mordred wrote:
I was just bloody trying to write something humorous for a laugh. I even put two bloody smileys in the same post just to be sure the tone came across but that didn't help much. Maybe it wasn't funny at all but surely nothing to be offended by. That's what I thought anyway.
It went through as such. What the hell, CDs are a serious thing dude, don't f@ck with them!

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:30 pm
by MetalDelight
I'm one of the newer guys around here. But hey, I'm in the scene from '83.

This forum has everything that facebook or whatsover lacks. I love forums like these. Whether one is into vinyls, cd's or both you can discuss and share overhere!

I came here because I thought that initially this forum was about good music not about the differences in music carriers.
Common all of you, we are brothers through the music, right!

Let's make friends not war!

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:48 am
by MetalDelight
A couple of new bargainbin finds.


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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:55 pm
by The Sentinel
I was at the Utrecht record fair today but to be honest it was a complete turn off now. Toooooo crowded and far toooooooo overpriced now. Bought 5 LPs. The only metal one is Twisted Tower Dire "The Isle of Hydra" 2LP. Been there for quite some years now but this was the last time :cry:

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:07 pm
by Prowler
mordred wrote:It's kind of weird to see middle of the road 80's stuff like Chastain, Vicious Rumors, Intruder or even Hellion that cost nothing on LP considered some sort of rarities when they're on shiny silver discs. I mean, that Hellion "Screams in the Night" LP can be found everywhere in bargain bins for like 10 euros and still nobody wants to buy it. But the same album reissued on an irrelevant format is apparently worth its weight in gold. It's sick. :) Same with the entire Gama/Scratch records catalog.
+ 666!
The vinyl can be found for 1 Euro either sometimes once in a month. It's like with that Sentinel Beast re-issue recently ... it costs more than the original record at ebay! :D

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:03 pm
by perishinflames
Well think that Screams in the Night was pressed in huge quantities, the 'limited edition' clear was 1000 copies so probably 5-10,000 or even more by New Renaissance, another 5-10,000 by MFN in UK, there is also a French pressing (forgot the label) maybe other countries as well but all in all there's at least 20,000 copies out there on vinyl (possibly much more). They made way more copies than were even demanded at the time obviously because a lot of the copies seen now are cut-outs. How much does a Death - Symbolic CD cost? And the LP version? Stupid vinyl collectors paying 20x the price for a 'dead format', bunch of fools with too much money blahblahblah

It goes both ways, arguing over it and quitting a forum because of bullshit arguments is silly. This forum has lost a lot of good posters over the years, and that's a damn shame. Too bad it was over petty squabbling, but ultimately it was their choice not to ignore / rise above it and continue to discuss the music we all love.

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:06 pm
by msp
The Sentinel wrote:I was at the Utrecht record fair today but to be honest it was a complete turn off now. Toooooo crowded and far toooooooo overpriced now
Similar story with the London record fairs these days. Everyone seems to price by Popsike now...

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:31 am
by Keir
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:43 am
by Prowler
perishinflames wrote:How much does a Death - Symbolic CD cost? And the LP version? Stupid vinyl collectors paying 20x the price for a 'dead format', bunch of fools with too much money blahblahblah
Seriously who the hell needs a "Symbolic" LP or CD? The story of Death ended right after "Spiritual healing" for every early Death Metal fan. Technical Death Metal???? Death Metal stands for brutality, outrageous Metal, evilness, ruthlessness and not for 1000 riffs and breaks in one song. The addition of that technical shit was responsible the most for the decline of real Death Metal.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:49 am
by msp
Some of us like the later Death material as well as the early stuff

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:19 am
by Prowler
msp wrote:Some of us like the later Death material as well as the early stuff
But that stuff has nothing to do with the sense of the term DEATH Metal. It's just a progression and should get a completely new name to keep real Death Metal fans away from buying that shit.


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And here are some demos that I've bought in the past 2 or 3 months:

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