Cochino wrote:I guess you can't get passed literal reading then. I was taking the "deserve" thing to proof how stupid it was but reading and interpreting might be a bit out of your reach as you've shown in several of your posts. Sadly there are things that can't be bought with money.
Every rare record can be bought....with money.
But let's make this real simple so our varied intellects don't get in the way.
If I spend $1,000 to buy a rare record give me one reason I should share it with you for free??
Cochino wrote:I guess you can't get passed literal reading then. I was taking the "deserve" thing to proof how stupid it was but reading and interpreting might be a bit out of your reach as you've shown in several of your posts. Sadly there are things that can't be bought with money.
Every rare record can be bought....with money.
But let's make this real simple so our varied intellects don't get in the way.
If I spend $1,000 to buy a rare record give me one reason I should share it with you for free??
No you shouldn't, you can do whatever you want with it. But if you could share it and you don't then I have all the right to call you a selfish asshole 'cause you're acting like one. You already have the record and nobody will take it away from you, if other people are interested in checking the music and there aren't many copies available and they are too expensive, why not give the other guys a chance to check it out?
Cochino wrote:I guess you can't get passed literal reading then. I was taking the "deserve" thing to proof how stupid it was but reading and interpreting might be a bit out of your reach as you've shown in several of your posts. Sadly there are things that can't be bought with money.
Every rare record can be bought....with money.
But let's make this real simple so our varied intellects don't get in the way.
If I spend $1,000 to buy a rare record give me one reason I should share it with you for free??
No you shouldn't, you can do whatever you want with it. But if you could share it and you don't then I have all the right to call you a selfish asshole 'cause you're acting like one. You already have the record and nobody will take it away from you, if other people are interested in checking the music and there aren't many copies available and they are too expensive, why not give the other guys a chance to check it out?
So other than you'll call me a selfish asshole....what is the reason I should give it to you??
I mean....I don't have a girlfriend....and a hooker is too expensive....can I fuck yours??
Cochino wrote:I guess you can't get passed literal reading then. I was taking the "deserve" thing to proof how stupid it was but reading and interpreting might be a bit out of your reach as you've shown in several of your posts. Sadly there are things that can't be bought with money.
Every rare record can be bought....with money.
But let's make this real simple so our varied intellects don't get in the way.
If I spend $1,000 to buy a rare record give me one reason I should share it with you for free??
No you shouldn't, you can do whatever you want with it. But if you could share it and you don't then I have all the right to call you a selfish asshole 'cause you're acting like one. You already have the record and nobody will take it away from you, if other people are interested in checking the music and there aren't many copies available and they are too expensive, why not give the other guys a chance to check it out?
Yeah, why not? If you can do it without any major effort and you don't do it just because you don't want to share, why can't I call you a selfish asshole?
And about reasons, you could try to give me one Rockadelic since you haven't given any good one since this conversation started. Or was that stupid girlfriend syllogism an attempt at giving a good argument?
Rockadelic wrote:If I spend $1,000 to buy a rare record give me one reason I should share it with you for free??
Because the more people who hear it, the more people will be interested in buying it, If it's good. And if you have something that a lot of people want, well that can only be good for you, right? It puts you in a better position should you ever want to get rid of it.
I'm not saying everything should be shared, not at all. And I'm not saying you're an elitist for not wanting to share something, but I'm not saying people who request uploads of music they've never heard are cheap either. Which is basically what's implied here. I mean, we're all music lovers here, and most of us actually buy real records worth a lot of money. Is it wrong to want to be able to listen to what you're purchasing before hand?
Not that I've ever spent $1000 on a record. And I never will.
Over coffee this morning I decided I'm going to sell my whole collection and just collect the records that don't exist and I'm not planning on sharing any of them with anyone either...I'll start with Children of the Unicorn
It is not wrong for Wanting to hear something you never heard before.
If you have the chance great.
But to call someone an Asshole for not letting the world hear something is just WRONG.
If I got the first email that started this damn thread and it said. "I saw the auction for the MM record and I would really like to hear this record. Is there any chance you could send me a clip" I would have repley very nicely NO since I did no longer have the record.
BUT the email was not like that and the thread was not like that. It was calling folks Assjholes for not sharing, when they were never asked. And stating the record must not exist or is very bad since they could not already find it on the web.
I think you received a copy of my book. How many records/bands are in there that have never seen the light of day? Am I an asshole because I have not upleaded my collection? I kow how since you aready stated I do so when selling records?
Rockadelic wrote:If I spend $1,000 to buy a rare record give me one reason I should share it with you for free??
Because the more people who hear it, the more people will be interested in buying it, If it's good. And if you have something that a lot of people want, well that can only be good for you, right? It puts you in a better position should you ever want to get rid of it.
I'm not saying everything should be shared, not at all. And I'm not saying you're an elitist for not wanting to share something, but I'm not saying people who request uploads of music they've never heard are cheap either. Which is basically what's implied here. I mean, we're all music lovers here, and most of us actually buy real records worth a lot of money. Is it wrong to want to be able to listen to what you're purchasing before hand?
Not that I've ever spent $1000 on a record. And I never will.
I'm not implying anyone is cheap.....and I have no problem with people asking for music.....I've given music away for free for years....to my friends.
I've pressed records and given them away for free...to my friends.....it's not about being cheap.
NO ONE here has given away more records than Glockose.
It's this sense of entitlement and the fact that if I don't share I'm a selfish asshole that is fucked up.......GTFOOHWTBS.
And make no mistake....the reason a collector of ANYTHING spends a lot of money on an item is so they have something that not many others do...that's what the entire concept of collecting is about and it's the reason records sell for $1,000.
Glockose, I'm referring only to the case of "I won't share it 'cause I payed too much for it" attitude. There can be a lot of other reasons for not ripping some LP. People can get busy, not know how to do it, it could even be laziness and that's ok with me. Now if the reason you give for not sharing a record is that you payed much for it and don't want other people to listen to it, then it's outright selfishness to me. I'm not saying people should go out of their way to upload music, but if you can do it, why not?
doomedplanet wrote:Over coffee this morning I decided I'm going to sell my whole collection and just collect the records that don't exist and I'm not planning on sharing any of them with anyone either...I'll start with Children of the Unicorn
It's a rare one, Not very easy to find. The next time your in town I'll sing it for you.
Although my copy has water damage, That damn Dolphin
Cochino wrote:Glockose, I'm referring only to the case of "I won't share it 'cause I payed too much for it" attitude. There can be a lot of other reasons for not ripping some LP. People can get busy, not know how to do it, it could even be laziness and that's ok with me. Now if the reason you give for not sharing a record is that you payed much for it and don't want other people to listen to it, then it's outright selfishness to me. I'm not saying people should go out of their way to upload music, but if you can do it, why not?
I have the time....the ability and the know how.
But....
I'M NOT YOUR HEAVY METAL SANTA CLAUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know, have to take care of my nerves or I'll die way to early. 
