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especially for the condition, notice all the marks on the vinyl??

Trigger wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT
Isn't it quite much for this one?

Keir- thanks for the clarification!

Trigger- yeah, that sounds high even if it were in NM condition

Rob- I'm always amazed that people often do not reduce their bid accordingly for records in lower grades. For example: someone recently bid over $300 for a copy of the Satan single with a picture sleeve in pretty battered condition. You can get a NM/NM copy for that price! I wouldn't have given half that amount for a coy with a really worn sleeve.

Just saw this one close:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3934wt_959

Maybe not 'insane' but seems pretty high, especially if it's lacking the insert (doesn't specify). I know it's a little hard to find without a cut-out mark, but you can get a clean copy, no cuts, w/ insert for $50-ish if you're patient

All this stuff seems really expensive from where I'm standing. I can only presume that most of this stuff is being bought as investments? Otherwise I couldn't justify paying that for any record. Hopefully Metal will become totally unfashionable again soon and then I'll be able to find records I've wanted for years for affordable prices

edit: actually a fun thread would be to show auctions or listings that go for REALLY CHEAP!

Piotr Sargnagel wrote:All this stuff seems really expensive from where I'm standing. I can only presume that most of this stuff is being bought as investments? Otherwise I couldn't justify paying that for any record. Hopefully Metal will become totally unfashionable again soon and then I'll be able to find records I've wanted for years for affordable prices

edit: actually a fun thread would be to show auctions or listings that go for REALLY CHEAP!

A really expensive record in a bargain price on eBay would also make it to the "insane auctions" league,wouldn't it?

I guess you're right!

edit: actually a fun thread would be to show auctions or listings that go for REALLY CHEAP!

There are/were tons of. No so many as still 5 years ago but it happens: 99% is buy-it-now.
I watched HEATHENS RAGE two copies for 15 US$ buy it now, red vinyl Dark Angel-We have arrived for 10 US$ and many stuff like this. There were 3 Deuce 7"'s for some US$ etc. Best ever in my eyes was on ebay.de:

a copy of the IMPOSSIBLE to find and Top 10 of the rare albums "AMETHYST" EP for 5 € buy it now.

Impossible nowadays that a record is undiscovered for its 1 US$ or 9,99 US$ starting price if in wrong section. METALWOLF was listed under disco 12"'s for 9,99 US$ but got discovered one week ago. I think there are people that have want list agents with 8000 Lps And have to check all those mails daily but in the end efficient although it takes too much time.

This was very easy some years ago. Got the yellow goat Bathory listed under Hardrock with the title "Batlord LP" for 46 US$ will check the shelves for more cheapos found on ebay. But I think everybody in here has a dozen of those....probably cheaper and better finds on the world's biggest egay platform

Guess it's time to add "Batlord" to my saved searches

Too bad you can only have 100 saved searches then. At least that's my limit.

It's definitely getting harder to find bargains on ebay. Not impossible, but harder. Too many people are looking for the records, entering tons of saved searches, looking up values on popsike and forums, etc

Others seem to have better luck with Gemm. Personally, I find their website a pain to navigate, and everything I find is listed for a ridiculous price. I've bought exactly 1 record on Gemm

The trend that's bothering me is the increasing number of auctions that abruptly end 2-3 days after starting. I've seen this happen much more frequently in the past 3-4 months. I assume people are contacting the sellers and arranging direct-sale transactions.

actually in the pre ebay days i used to get tons of mega rarities for free or deadcheap,from clueless sellers or the bands.
The big con of ebay and popsike is that they are killing most chance of finding something on outside-ebay record lists for next to nothing,as i used to do around say 2000-2003.
examples would include:
street child-free
graven image -original ep: free
dragonne: $80
rellik: $30
white night (bel) :$33
decoy paris $5
vxn :$20
taist of iron $35
not to mention 10 copies of mystress,10 copies of overlord (canada),5 copies of auroch (fr) for practically nothing.
and this was NOT in 1996 or anything,im talking 2000-2005 when not ALL record selling was going through ebay.good times.

MassOfKthulu wrote:actually in the pre ebay days i used to get tons of mega rarities for free or deadcheap,from clueless sellers or the bands.
The big con of ebay and popsike is that they are killing most chance of finding something on outside-ebay record lists for next to nothing,as i used to do around say 2000-2003.
examples would include:
street child-free
graven image -original ep: free
dragonne: $80
rellik: $30
white night (bel) :$33
decoy paris $5
vxn :$20
taist of iron $35
not to mention 10 copies of mystress,10 copies of overlord (canada),5 copies of auroch (fr) for practically nothing.
and this was NOT in 1996 or anything,im talking 2000-2005 when not ALL record selling was going through ebay.good times.

I think we all got good buys even during the early 00s. One consideration: were those records selling for huge amounts on ebay at the time? Some of today's high-dollar rarities sold for MUCH less 10 years ago.
Stories like yours are part of the reason that record lists have disappeared. I'm not accusing you of any wrong-doing; we all got some great buys back then. However, when people hear someone boasting about, "man, I got this killer rare record from some guy for nothing b/c he had no clue what it was worth", it makes people very paranoid about selling their own records too cheaply. Thus, instead of putting together a sale list with set prices, they put everything on ebay to help ensure that the seller doesn't give away something really valuable for a few bucks. Even most sale lists now request 'Offers" for many items. This was done pre-ebay as well, but I think it's become much more common in recent years.
So while we can all enjoy the good buys we used to get, those deals did have a side-effect, making it harder to get similar deals today.

I didnt mean to elaborate further but i just wanted to mention how the infrastructure necessary was lacking at the time-ita est,there would be no 'talking' or 'boasting' online since today's closed circuits of forum-metal archives-ebay-forum,pertinent not only to vinyl collecting but metal in general(replace ebay with myspace) was non existent at the time,therefore real life friends/collectors notwithstanding,it was really hard to do any of the above.sellers did not have an instant reference,and therefore you could get away with murder at times-but there was no corroseum to brag about it! haha.
you are correct about the prices part-it took Joe Pangallo 2 years to get rid of his solar eagle stock around 2000-which he was selling for $150 at the time-a ridiculous price i thought back then.its price is still ridiculous-but in a very different sense.prices have gone up severely.
let's not mention stratovarius and rage LPs printed in 1995 being sold for 250 dollars-i wasnt there in the 80s,but around 1995 i used to go and pick up these LPs for 1200 drachmas-around 4 euro-my weeks pocketmoney.
this i can direcly relate to and indeed i cannot believe it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0539650680

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0315669508

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0482955197

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0356919339

MassOfKthulu wrote:I didnt mean to elaborate further but i just wanted to mention how the infrastructure necessary was lacking at the time-ita est,there would be no 'talking' or 'boasting' online since today's closed circuits of forum-metal archives-ebay-forum,pertinent not only to vinyl collecting but metal in general(replace ebay with myspace) was non existent at the time,therefore real life friends/collectors notwithstanding,it was really hard to do any of the above.sellers did not have an instant reference,and therefore you could get away with murder at times-but there was no corroseum to brag about it! haha.
you are correct about the prices part-it took Joe Pangallo 2 years to get rid of his solar eagle stock around 2000-which he was selling for $150 at the time-a ridiculous price i thought back then.its price is still ridiculous-but in a very different sense.prices have gone up severely.
let's not mention stratovarius and rage LPs printed in 1995 being sold for 250 dollars-i wasnt there in the 80s,but around 1995 i used to go and pick up these LPs for 1200 drachmas-around 4 euro-my weeks pocketmoney.
this i can direcly relate to and indeed i cannot believe it.

You're right that Word may not have spread as fast 10 years ago when a seller got burned, but there were still plenty of boards and forums at that point for people to show off their new purchases, which means there were some ways for sellers to start learning, even if popsike wasn't available . I remember discussing ebay auctions with people on other sites and via email in 1998 when a rare metal record turned up for auction.

Could I ask what some of the rare things you managed to get back then were?