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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:57 am
by metalmaster
Avenger wrote:metalmaster wrote:Avenger wrote:
Calling Running Wild "Black Metal" today when we are all fully aware what Black Metal really is now is just being ignorant. It's refusing to accept and adapt to modern day advances.
Sorry but I would rather call Black Metal the first and even the second album of Running Wild than all those shitty bands ripoffing Bathory endlessly. Running wild had the satanic and revolting lyrics, much more mature than those crap bands hailing genocide, detruction, etc. It seems newer generations havent learnt nothing and go backwards to the extreme of ridiculous. And still they deny Venom as Black Metal!
See my reply to Helm.
Both Helm's answer and mine are different so no a single reply apply for both.
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:01 am
by Avenger
metalmaster wrote:Avenger wrote:metalmaster wrote:
Sorry but I would rather call Black Metal the first and even the second album of Running Wild than all those shitty bands ripoffing Bathory endlessly. Running wild had the satanic and revolting lyrics, much more mature than those crap bands hailing genocide, detruction, etc. It seems newer generations havent learnt nothing and go backwards to the extreme of ridiculous. And still they deny Venom as Black Metal!
See my reply to Helm.
Both Helm's answer and mine are different so no a single reply apply for both.
The second part of the last of the three replies to Helm answers your question.
You guys made the same point.
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:28 am
by DaN
Would I be a silly cow if I said I like early RUNNING WILD
better when thinking of it as Black Metal? Somehow when I do the RW=BM equation in my head I get this warm, cozy feeling and remember how downright SCARY the BM-monicker sounded to me as a kid. Almost makes you forget the last 2 decades of consistent downfall...
Frankly any old band that dared to call themselves both Black- and Speed Metal - whatever the sound - always turned out awesome. Just look at VOIVOD!
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:50 am
by ION BRITTON
Wouldn't mind putting the first 2 RUNNING WILD under that tag. Same thing goes for SATAN'S HOST.
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:01 am
by anthares
The best 80´s speed metal band is
AGENT FUCKING
STEEL!
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:13 pm
by mordred
DaN wrote:Would I be a silly cow if I said I like early RUNNING WILD better when thinking of it as Black Metal? Somehow when I do the RW=BM equation in my head I get this warm, cozy feeling ...
That's only because deep down you have always wanted to be a tr00 grim black metal kid of the kvlt norwegian deep forests, but you have somehow always felt a little to intimidated by the grotesque imagery of baphomet heads, theatrical blood, corpse paint, poorly dyed hair and oversized beerbelys, so here you are, clutching at whatever straws you can feel comfortable with. So you're excused.
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:24 pm
by DaN
mordred wrote:DaN wrote:Would I be a silly cow if I said I like early RUNNING WILD better when thinking of it as Black Metal? Somehow when I do the RW=BM equation in my head I get this warm, cozy feeling ...
That's only because deep down you have always wanted to be a tr00 grim black metal kid of the kvlt norwegian deep forests, but you have somehow always felt a little to intimidated by the grotesque imagery of baphomet heads, theatrical blood, corpse paint, poorly dyed hair and oversized beerbelys, so here you are, clutching at whatever straws you can feel comfortable with. So you're excused.
It's that obvious, it it?
*puts on STYGGMYR's last album and mopes for the rest of the weekend*
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:16 pm
by Helm
I really don't see what OBJECTIVE METALLIK LAW is being violated when a band that doesn't play with constant blastbeats is called black metal. After all, wasn't the Norwegian style supposed to be the 'second wave' of black metal? And the first was all this thrasy or speedy metal like Sodom or Venom or yes, even early Running Wild?
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:27 pm
by Black Axe
What, no constant blast beats? proto-black metal FTW! [/super league of kvlt elitisms]
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:44 pm
by Cochino
Helm wrote:I really don't see what OBJECTIVE METALLIK LAW is being violated when a band that doesn't play with constant blastbeats is called black metal. After all, wasn't the Norwegian style supposed to be the 'second wave' of black metal? And the first was all this thrasy or speedy metal like Sodom or Venom or yes, even early Running Wild?
I agree with that. I like first wave Black Metal which includes bands like Bulldözer, and I also dare to include Future Tense and Mercyful Fate.
And what about Flames Of Hell? I would say they're 100% Black Metal.
(Maybe we should start a thread on Black Metal too).
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:50 am
by MEXDefenderOfSteel
1.AGENT STEEL
3.EXCITER
2.LIVING DEATH
4.FATAL VIOLENCE (first demo)
5.(draw)IRON ANGEL-ACID
about black metal, dammit! as long they have real satanic lyrics, i dont care if they do blast beasts or not,or they use a cool high pitched vocalist, for me its black metal!
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:54 pm
by Witchkiller
What a thread!What a thread!!!!!!!!!!
You guyz are top notch users heavy metal proffesors
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:21 pm
by big mouth
SAVAGE GRACE.... That's the epitome of Speed Metal...
A. STEEL had Thrash elements all over their riffing so I wouldn't consider them as Speed Metal.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:31 pm
by ®O©O
Acid!
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:42 pm
by Witchkiller
Excellent choice sir!
KATE FOR LIFE!