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CloudsOfMetal wrote:Politicians and rich people could be called cake eaters, but who are the milk drinkers?

Usually kids and Swedes.

GJ wrote:

CloudsOfMetal wrote:Politicians and rich people could be called cake eaters, but who are the milk drinkers?

Usually kids and Swedes.

I thought Swedes drink champagne instead of milk.

So I'm a rich, Swedish politician?

Black Axe wrote:So I'm a rich, Swedish politician?

Who drinks champagne, eats cake and sails on a lake at the same time.

Back on the topic, this has been mentioned already countless times but most likely metalheads might have used majority of their disposable income on records, travelling and other metal related stuff. But that doesn't still make them poor.

Personally speaking, I don't need/want a family, huge house, fancy car or anything like that so I'm going to spend my time/money on things I value and love, of course those things are music, games, movies and electronics and so on. Haven't told anyone about my life plans yet because I doubt no one I know would take that seriously. I'm not judging anyone's way of life and no one else should either. I would gladly dedicate my life to collecting and listening to metal and music in general. Hope I'm not naive with my future plans but if I am it doesn't matter, because according to these stories some of you have already lived a metal collecting way of life for some time now. Besides money is made to be used.

And I wonder what will happen to metal music in like 50 or 100 years and maybe after thousands of years there will be literal metal archeology. I can already see a Paradoxx lp inside a showcase in museum.

CloudsOfMetal wrote:I can already see a Paradoxx lp inside a showcase in museum.

I think this has ALREADY taken place in some private collections.

CloudsOfMetal wrote:Politicians and rich people could be called cake eaters, but who are the milk drinkers?

I do drink milk... did I get the question wrong?

IMO, the perception that metal heads are poor is not really correct but it does depend how poverty is defined. If it is defined in terms relative to average income in any one country, you might find it to be true. Absolute poverty however, where you struggle to get something to eat from day to day and feel lucky if you can stay warm and dry, is not very common among metalheads I know. People who are poor like that have little or no time for heavy metal.

I can't afford buying music at the mo, but that's because I've bought a house slightly more costly than I probably should have plus I've had to get the car fixed, buy a new TV, I'm having my teeth fixed and I've bought new furniture all in the space of one month. I may be economically naïve, but I'm not poor

Money makes life easier in many many aspects specially in this new consumming world. But doesn't buy you everything. If you don't know it yet i hope the shock won't be big when you'll find it out. Also with the speed as the world is changing the poor of today can be the rich of tomorrow and vice versa in just a blink of an eye.

Nasty Uwe wrote:

CloudsOfMetal wrote:I can already see a Paradoxx lp inside a showcase in museum.

I think this has ALREADY taken place in some private collections.

Most likely

great_knuthulhu wrote:

CloudsOfMetal wrote:Politicians and rich people could be called cake eaters, but who are the milk drinkers?

I do drink milk... did I get the question wrong?

IMO, the perception that metal heads are poor is not really correct but it does depend how poverty is defined. If it is defined in terms relative to average income in any one country, you might find it to be true. Absolute poverty however, where you struggle to get something to eat from day to day and feel lucky if you can stay warm and dry, is not very common among metalheads I know. People who are poor like that have little or no time for heavy metal.

I can't afford buying music at the mo, but that's because I've bought a house slightly more costly than I probably should have plus I've had to get the car fixed, buy a new TV, I'm having my teeth fixed and I've bought new furniture all in the space of one month. I may be economically naïve, but I'm not poor

So no one is actually poor for metal. Almost no one I guess.

Allow me to keep this devil's lawyer role.
All those arabian sheikhs that own the art masterpieces in original form...do they understand as it well as any western university art student or any decent painter ?
Money doesn't buy good taste or knowledge.
It gives you the possibility to have it but maybe you don't really deserve it.

rumblefist wrote:Allow me to keep this devil's lawyer role.
All those arabian sheikhs that own the art masterpieces in original form...do they understand as it well as any western university art student or any decent painter ?
Money doesn't buy good taste or knowledge.
It gives you the possibility to have it but maybe you don't really deserve it.

I'm growing rather tired of seeing you ramble on about how people that buy music aren’t "true". I realize you are trying to add to the discussion but keep in mind that this website is dedicated to collecting records in a physical format. I understand that you also have some rare content yourself but from my recollection it's all in MP3's. If you want us to respect the way you do things I would recommend doing the same to others. Not all people with money are just buying records just because they can.

Oh avingyr, you're tired, then grab a chair. You're wrong about the mp3. I don't have room in my house to receive at same time more than 1 friend. It's full of stuff allover. Even in the ground. I was just taking position from the poor's sideview. The ones that don't even have internet connection. Are they lesser metalfans to any other metalfan ?
It was the topic making divisions and elites that annoyed me a little bit.

CloudsOfMetal wrote:Personally speaking, I don't need/want a family, huge house, fancy car or anything like that so I'm going to spend my time/money on things I value and love, of course those things are music, games, movies and electronics and so on. Haven't told anyone about my life plans yet because I doubt no one I know would take that seriously. I'm not judging anyone's way of life and no one else should either. I would gladly dedicate my life to collecting and listening to metal and music in general. Hope I'm not naive with my future plans but if I am it doesn't matter, because according to these stories some of you have already lived a metal collecting way of life for some time now. Besides money is made to be used.

Just out of curiosity: May i ask how old are you and what is your profession?

I mean, most of us obviously love music, and maybe also movies and video games, but to center our lifes around pure enjoyments who demand nothing from ourselfs, no personal achievemtens, nothing? That in my view is not really a "dedication", isn't it?

Sgt. Kuntz wrote:

CloudsOfMetal wrote:Personally speaking, I don't need/want a family, huge house, fancy car or anything like that so I'm going to spend my time/money on things I value and love, of course those things are music, games, movies and electronics and so on. Haven't told anyone about my life plans yet because I doubt no one I know would take that seriously. I'm not judging anyone's way of life and no one else should either. I would gladly dedicate my life to collecting and listening to metal and music in general. Hope I'm not naive with my future plans but if I am it doesn't matter, because according to these stories some of you have already lived a metal collecting way of life for some time now. Besides money is made to be used.

Just out of curiosity: May i ask how old are you and what is your profession?

I mean, most of us obviously love music, and maybe also movies and video games, but to center our lifes around pure enjoyments who demand nothing from ourselfs, no personal achievemtens, nothing? That in my view is not really a "dedication", isn't it?

I'm 19 and currently studying computer science in AMK.

Of course I have personal achievements and goals, like getting the degree, finding a job abroad, moving away from Finland, learning new languages, learning to play new instruments in addition to guitar, writing computer programs or recreational software and staying somewhat healthy. Besides If I ever get bored of spending my spare time on my interests I could always travel somewhere, do drugs and experience new things. Sometimes I like to spend time with friends and acquaintances with same interests but otherwise I'm a complete hermit.

CloudsOfMetal wrote: I'm 19 and currently studying computer science in AMK.

Of course I have personal achievements and goals, like getting the degree, finding a job abroad, moving away from Finland, learning new languages, learning to play new instruments in addition to guitar, writing computer programs or recreational software and staying somewhat healthy. Besides If I ever get bored of spending my spare time on my interests I could always travel somewhere, do drugs and experience new things. Sometimes I like to spend time with friends and acquaintances with same interests but otherwise I'm a complete hermit.

That sounds more reasonable. Well, except for the part with the drugs maybe.

Hey, rich people... i could use a 4digit amount of euro if you have spare...
I have to get to KIT late April 2012...