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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:10 am
by OmenOfSteel
nightsblood wrote:I too remember the days of $75 Salems Wyches and Solar Eagles, I was just too broke to buy many of them back then.
Right now Salems Wych goes for 250$, Solar Eagle for 3x or 4x of that. Give it another 5 years and you may regret not buying/trading for just those prices.
I am into collecting since nearly 20 years and I dont see an end to the upward spiral, it ALWAYS was going up. Records get harder to find or vanish from the market, demand stays the same since forever, prices go up.
Of course there are exceptions, there is always a risk (or chance) involved in case an old stock turns up. But most bands have already been found, it gets harder and harder to discover something entierly new or find old stocks after this long time, so I dont see prices coming down, ever.
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:20 am
by Fucking Åmål
The fact is not how does they cost but does these records worth as musical value not as an investment.
Solar Eagle and Salem's Wych are top bands,Leather Nunn very good but Militia is a pile of crap.
But although the rare records business shows that rare albums become rarer and rarer(or as you prefer expensiver and expensiver) i have noticed
that many ordinary classic metal albums have the same price or sometimes degrading value the last 10 years with many offers as well usually at 5 Euro or less than 10 Euro.
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:37 pm
by Korgüll
Fucking Åmål wrote:expensiver
Is this a new thrash band Fucking Åmål???!
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:53 pm
by nightsblood
Re: OmenofSteel-
you're probably right that, in another 5 years, $250 will seem like a bargain for something like Salems Wych. Unfortunately, that doesn't make the record any more affordable at the moment. If a person can't afford to pay $250 for it right now, it doesn't matter how much the value may increase in the future.
I would liked to have won Axe Crazy's recent ebay auction of the Bolweevill 7", but I can't afford to pay $475 for a single. I could put it on my credit card and then be stuck paying it off for the next six months or so, racking up interest the entire time, but I'm just not willing to be financially irresponsible in order to buy rare records. I have rent and tuition bills to pay, a girlfriend to take care of, and family and friends to buy christmas presents for... for me, those things have to come before buying records. Record collecting is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, not ruin a person's finances. Maybe it wouldn't bother some folks, but I know I would have felt like crap putting that Bolweevill 7" on my credit card. Instead of enjoying the fact that I finally owned a copy and got something off my wantlist, I would have instead been stressed out that I put myself about $500 in debt just to buy a single.
If I were buying the single as an investment and planning to re-sell it in 3 years for $800, that would be a little different, but personally I don't view my records as investments. I might sell them off someday, but I don't buy them just to build a 'vinyl portfolio'.
I guess the bottom line is that, as long as I'm both poor and financially responsible, I'm not gonna get many records off my wantlist, but I'll lose a lot less sleep over not owning Bolweevill than I will over being hundreds-thousands of dollars in debt because i bought some records
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:51 pm
by DeathLörd
Check out this Kraut Rock auction for this LP!!! It is going to skyrocket!!!
http://cgi.ebay.ca/LP-CAN-MONSTER-MOVIE ... dZViewItem
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:54 pm
by nightsblood
Interesting, though i don't know anything about that genre
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:34 am
by Korgüll
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:19 am
by msp
What a joke - sure there are mad collectors in every genre but $400 for a Slayer t-shirt? The buyer must have more money than sense
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:26 am
by ION BRITTON
Does anyone remember a SATAN'S HOST original t-shirt that was on ebay 2-3 years ago? The seller had set a starting price at approx. 1.900$ and of course noone bided...
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:47 am
by great_knuthulhu
Re: prices going to the sky
A lot of 70s hard rock/psych/prog albums have actually gone down in price since demand is lower than it used to be a few years back. I'm not sure the same thing will happen to metal, but I would certainly never take the chance on a record thinking I might be able to sell it on for more later if I find out I really can't afford to keep it.
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:11 pm
by humus
Certain Iron maiden shirts sell up to $1000, and I can think of a few Slayer shirts that would sell for more than that (the legendary Altar of sacrifice baseballshirt for example, what to this day is still thé best looking metalshirt I've ever seen).
Some people collect shirts like most of us collect records, and thus pay the same high prices some people here spend on wax. There a new forum specially dedicated to shirt collectors, many cool and very rare designs posted there by the members:
http://shirtchaser.forumieren.de
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:26 pm
by nightsblood
some old pro wrestling T-shirts are also selling for hundreds of dollars lately. A Red Rooster shirt sold on ebay last year/early this year for something like $400, and he wasn't even very popular!
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:09 pm
by anthares
Fuck! No wonder someone stole it from me in Japan!
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:38 am
by OmenOfSteel
@nightsblood: I wholeheartly agree with you. Collecting records should be fun and not lead to financial ruin.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:15 am
by DMR
nightsblood wrote:some old pro wrestling T-shirts are also selling for hundreds of dollars lately. A Red Rooster shirt sold on ebay last year/early this year for something like $400, and he wasn't even very popular!
Never underestimate the die-hard Red Rooster fanbase, I guess. I wonder if the person who bought it was a real fan or someone who wanted it "ironically."