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Avenger wrote:I traded my copy about a month ago and now have a chance to buy another one to replace it with really cheap, but want to make sure it's legit as there is a highly common greek bootleg in circulation.

Thanks in advance.

i don't know about boot, but there is one another limited reissue from
M8/Magdalene rec. from 2001 whith demo bonus so beware of
that one too. that matrix is 13QY5<838>MD1109

®O©O wrote:

Avenger wrote:I traded my copy about a month ago and now have a chance to buy another one to replace it with really cheap, but want to make sure it's legit as there is a highly common greek bootleg in circulation.

Thanks in advance.

i don't know about boot, but there is one another limited reissue from
M8/Magdalene rec. from 2001 whith demo bonus so beware of
that one too. that matrix is 13QY5<838>MD1109

Thanks man, already aware, but appreciate you looking out.


EDIT: STILL NEED THE MATRIX NUMBER OF THE ORIGINAL.

The Knell wrote:Okay how rare/pricey are : Kuster s/t 7" and s/t 12"? I really could need them.

I've never seen them for sale apart from when I got them from Rainer K at the WOA Metal Market in 2001 (for about 30-40 euros each I think). All their releases seem to be extremely rare, but the demand is obviosly limited. If you find anything below 50 euros I'd say it's a certain buy.

DaN wrote:

The Knell wrote:Okay how rare/pricey are : Kuster s/t 7" and s/t 12"? I really could need them.

I've never seen them for sale apart from when I got them from Rainer K at the WOA Metal Market in 2001 (for about 30-40 euros each I think). All their releases seem to be extremely rare, but the demand is obviosly limited. If you find anything below 50 euros I'd say it's a certain buy.

Thanks !
Ok I bought the 7" for 8€ now.

The Knell wrote:Ok I bought the 7" for 8€ now.

Congrats! Which one? They made at least 3 - probably 5.

DaN wrote:

The Knell wrote:Ok I bought the 7" for 8€ now.

Congrats! Which one? They made at least 3 - probably 5.

Thanks, it's the self titled 7" EP "All A Live / Love A Bit" 1984.

Weird-bad-good, I really dig those both records.

Was Shah - Escape from Mind officially released on a CD in 1993 or is it just the recent bootleg? One guy from Germany was selling some copies and he sent me a photo of the CD, it looked very legit, but while I asked him if it's a boot cause I saw him listing it on ebay like 3, 4 times, he replied that he sold over 30 CDs already --> I later forgot all about it and forgot to ask if he found a box of the CDs, or are they perhaps the fresh boots? Anyone knows more about it?

Avenger wrote:

®O©O wrote:

Avenger wrote:I traded my copy about a month ago and now have a chance to buy another one to replace it with really cheap, but want to make sure it's legit as there is a highly common greek bootleg in circulation.

Thanks in advance.

i don't know about boot, but there is one another limited reissue from
M8/Magdalene rec. from 2001 whith demo bonus so beware of
that one too. that matrix is 13QY5<838>MD1109

Thanks man, already aware, but appreciate you looking out.


EDIT: STILL NEED THE MATRIX NUMBER OF THE ORIGINAL.

CDO-9201 (V), I think it is. Had to look at the CD in a mirror, since the number is the wrong way around.

leifkr wrote:

Avenger wrote:

®O©O wrote:
i don't know about boot, but there is one another limited reissue from
M8/Magdalene rec. from 2001 whith demo bonus so beware of
that one too. that matrix is 13QY5<838>MD1109

Thanks man, already aware, but appreciate you looking out.


EDIT: STILL NEED THE MATRIX NUMBER OF THE ORIGINAL.

CDO-9201 (V), I think it is. Had to look at the CD in a mirror, since the number is the wrong way around.

Thank you very much sir.

DaN wrote:

The Knell wrote:Okay how rare/pricey are : Kuster s/t 7" and s/t 12"? I really could need them.

I've never seen them for sale apart from when I got them from Rainer K at the WOA Metal Market in 2001 (for about 30-40 euros each I think). All their releases seem to be extremely rare, but the demand is obviosly limited. If you find anything below 50 euros I'd say it's a certain buy.

Actually I have seen that 8" (or was it 7"? or 12"? Can't remember) of them once for €2. But indeed, that's the only time I've seen anything from Kuster and I'm from Belgium...

humus wrote:

DaN wrote:

The Knell wrote:Okay how rare/pricey are : Kuster s/t 7" and s/t 12"? I really could need them.

I've never seen them for sale apart from when I got them from Rainer K at the WOA Metal Market in 2001 (for about 30-40 euros each I think). All their releases seem to be extremely rare, but the demand is obviosly limited. If you find anything below 50 euros I'd say it's a certain buy.

Actually I have seen that 8" (or was it 7"? or 12"? Can't remember) of them once for €2. But indeed, that's the only time I've seen anything from Kuster and I'm from Belgium...

I was in Liege in august, and a shopowner told me he would put 2 Kusters on ebay soon. HE already sold tons of obscure belgian metal 7"s.
Should ask tomas what the name of the store was.

sovdat wrote:Was Shah - Escape from Mind officially released on a CD in 1993 or is it just the recent bootleg? One guy from Germany was selling some copies and he sent me a photo of the CD, it looked very legit, but while I asked him if it's a boot cause I saw him listing it on ebay like 3, 4 times, he replied that he sold over 30 CDs already --> I later forgot all about it and forgot to ask if he found a box of the CDs, or are they perhaps the fresh boots? Anyone knows more about it?

Dont let this dude fool you, those are duplicated CDR bootlegs.

Escape From Mind has not been released officially on CD or LP so far, only on tape as far as I know. It is going to be officially released on CD by Metalism Records, but when only Alex know.

sovdat wrote:Was Shah - Escape from Mind officially released on a CD in 1993 or is it just the recent bootleg? One guy from Germany was selling some copies and he sent me a photo of the CD, it looked very legit, but while I asked him if it's a boot cause I saw him listing it on ebay like 3, 4 times, he replied that he sold over 30 CDs already --> I later forgot all about it and forgot to ask if he found a box of the CDs, or are they perhaps the fresh boots? Anyone knows more about it?

A Japanese collector I was in contact with years ago said it was pressed in Russia at that time, but was only made in about 300 copies by SNC records. Can't be 100% sure but his copy looked quite legit as well, was definitely not a CD-R or recent pressing. This guy you're talking about having 30 copies sounds pretty fishy though...

Ok, I'm hoping someone can help me with this query?
I already have ®O©O on the case about it; I have a copy of Dreamweaver on CD that i bought many years ago from someone in Sweden.

Here are the details:
The matrix under the CD says: CD PLANT MFG N0132-2 CDM01
The disc is silver with black writing on it and both tracks 'Best of Enemies' & 'Do Dark Horses...' printed on the disc goes across the clear plastic center.
Also there is no barcode, only a blank white rectangle in the top left corner??
...and the tracklisting on the first page of the booklet is black writing not red??!!
i hope this is not a fucking bootleg??
Can anyone shed some light? Sovdat? Avenger??
I can post pics tomorrow...

@ Korgüll:
Mine has the following matrix: N 0132-2 P+O-3180-A 04-89.
There is a barcode.
The tracklisting (in red lettering) is on the last page of the booklet - inside are the lyrics, various info, thank list and a picture of the band all in black and white (plus a merchandise insert).
"Do dark horses..." is well above and "Best of enemies" is well below the clear plastic centre.

Conclusions?