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sovdat wrote:This thread really needs more pics ...

Here's my poor attempt

Haha, I never realized that those two albums virtually have the same cover art.

Too bad that the Aragon is signed though...

I remember you posting that years ago(think so anyway). What's it like? comparable to any other band?

If posted before I don't remember. It is a quite scarce and great hard rocker. You wouldn't like it.

daniel wrote:I remember you posting that years ago(think so anyway). What's it like? comparable to any other band?

Haha, great cover

It might have been on Miskatonic.

Depends on a lot of things whether I'd like it, I like loads of hard rock, and especially 70's style hard rock.

And Rob, you never explained your comment directed at me in the 'Bad Axe' thread. Do you have a problem discussing things?

nothing to explain. I just randomly grabbed some of your thread comments below and it says it all to me , any combination of these would most be what you think of Fyter, a total DIY type release:

daniel wrote:Great to hear the whole thing. BUT, it's a terrible LP. I don't, do, not, believe anyone that says this record would be just as interesting if it were a common 2e bargain bin deal.

daniel wrote:Yeah this one has a fantastic cover, but with mediocre music.

daniel wrote:Yeah, I used to want to own this original, but after repeated listens I decided it's pretty lame - the melodies do nothing for me.

daniel wrote:And Rob, you never explained your comment directed at me in the 'Bad Axe' thread. Do you have a problem discussing things?

What a weird cover. Any chance to hear that Fyter LP?

Erm, you could've just as easily have compiled ones of me saying I liked something, or all the things I've uploaded, just because there happens to be a lot of stuff that sucks to me isn't my fault, there's still hundreds of things I like. And if you take a look there aren't really many people commenting on things in MP3 forum, I'd rather speak my mind than worry about how you might see me. I don't get how you can have such a one-sided view; well, I guess it's because you don't want to see me any other way and you're being selective. You're assumptions are way off, notice that I'm not even the only person not liking the records you alluded to, and are you saying there AREN'T tons of shit records out there, especially among the rarities??? You shouldn't presume so much as you don't really have any clue how wide my musical tastes are, and hard rock is not something I inherently dislike - but that certainly doesn't mean I like it all either. And I don't get what you mean by DIY really, what's that? Low-budget production/covers? You're so off the mark if you think that I have anything against such. Did you get offended that I disliked some records you do and lost your ability to reason? Looking forward to your single-sentence reply.

that's true in a way, I guess I'm just getting to be a crotchety old fucker, crabby and slow and impatient, haha. So many underground releases are not perfect by any means so to pick them apart for their imperfections/idiosycricies seems counterproductive. I prefer to praise them for what they are, artefacts of their time with flaws and warts and revel in them. and say little about the REAL crap out there. Something like Bad Axe might be a "rarity" and you think there is hype about it, but for me I got it on ebay for $20 and think it is a damn good $20 record regardless if now people are paying top prices for it. It just seemed interesting initially for the great cover art and it is a bonus that I like the music too, shit it could have been a pop record with horns and accordion for all I knew about it when I bought it. 'nuf said.

General question and I'm not referring to doomedplanet:

I don't understand it when I read things like 'this is a good $5 album' or 'this is not a good $200 album', I mean how is the musical value supposed to be connected with the price of a record? I try not to judge albums this way. Is a great $50 album better than $1 great album? Or a mediocre $5 album is better than a mediocre $2000 album, just because it doesn't cost that much? For example I love the PARADOXX ep, but there is absolutely no way in spending $1500+ for it. The album would sound to me just as killer even if it would sell for 1/100 of that price. It's cool that many great records are inexpensive, but that doesn't mean that they're less better than some of the top dollar great rarities or that a $$$ crappy obscurity is worse than a common but musically shitty record

I use that sort of reference, it is in the context that when records ended up selling for a lot of $$ they they often get considered "hyped". Take this Bad Axe lp as a perfect example. It is not a terrible record. But I don't think it is either a classic American metal gem like I think of Leather Nunn to contrast it. Leather Nunn is a combination of rare and great music, so this combination is what has always kept the price high, there is demand for the album all these years later. Bad Axe is rare and not terrible music, but expensive, so for me it defies logic to pay the high price. But collecting is not all about logic, most times it is emotion and impuse spending.

That's cool then Rob, I just thought you were pissed off at me or something. Sure I can understand people not wanting to get negative about things, but I just like speaking my mind regardless.

When it comes to the value thing well I think of it that way that the music has to be pretty damn special if I'm going to spend an above 'average' amount on it(unless it's found for a bargain of course), and I might also be more critical of typically expensive records for this reason.

Yeah, I think your last two lines say a lot. Besides even 'logic' is relative, paying $800 for a great album that usually costs $2000 might sound logic to some, to me it's still an insane price.
Then there's this nowadays tendency that all rare and expensive records should be musically great as well, 80% of the rarities is hyped beyond belief. On the other hand, there will always be some who will genuinely enjoy the rare stuff that the majority thinks its crap, I don't think you'll find one single record that all will agree that it's utter tosh. You don't need millions of listeners to talk posivitely about a record in order to get hyped, one record can get hyped by only a few people, it depends on how one says what he wants to say.
For example Dan devoted one single page and a full review for TROP FEROSS, it's a well written one and the page layout is great and it's things like these that can create a hype for something. I'm not judging Dan's taste 'cause I really believe that he thoroughly enjoys that particular album, but for me it will remain pure garbage