Maybe you are right, but I guess the biggest reason for this is the fact that Metal all over the world got less interesting with new trends showing up...Cochino wrote:The bands that existed both under communism and then democracy had done more interesting music in the old days
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Well, of course. But in these cases I see a deeper change in their approach to metal. Some of those bands seemed not to know exactly what was going on in metal scene worldwide so their approach to the genre was more temerary, with less prejudice and not following any trend whatsoever. When those countries "opened to the world" all the bands seemed to be desperates to jump into whatever trend was happening.
That's my personal opinion, but I haven't lived in any of those countries nor listened to that many bands from there so maybe someone can tell me if I'm right in this assumption.
That's my personal opinion, but I haven't lived in any of those countries nor listened to that many bands from there so maybe someone can tell me if I'm right in this assumption.
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The answer to Tony's Q was answered a few months back, remember?
MassOfKthulu wrote:Jag Panzer is nothing compared to the Kumunitskiyi Stil demo from 1988 caled 'yaruzelski revizionista metal' an grand opus in Do Sosialistatore for 45 cornettos,3 and a half oboe, 34 owls,2 urangutangs and 1 elf.
Its a concept demo about little Stanislav trying to get into US metal due to his chronic deafness which doesnt let him realise the majesty of 80s Lichtenstein,Libyan and Tibetian Steel and their utter supremacy vis a vis bad,evil,666 go away you bad dollar men US metal.
the Leader of Kumunitskiyi Stil ,Anatoli Icantplaymyguitarov,was later sold in Siberia, where he was help prisoner,for 1 packet of Malboro,thus ending their glorious carreer.Oh the loss.
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Well I grew up behind the iron curtain and was part of the late 80s/early 90s scene and can tell you that it wasn't anything like that. By 1986-1987 the Communism was already falling apart, we were growing long hairs and listening 100% to western metal. We didn't have good instruments or studios so that's why some of the commie metal sounds strange and different.Cochino wrote:Poisonoise should have a "communist metal" thread. I've always been interested in listening to music done under such regimes. Just listen to Russian or Yugoslavian bands. The bands that existed both under communism and then democracy had done more interesting music in the old days, I think it has something to do with being extremely underground and even illegal.
Just in case I wanna make clear that I'm not making any political point one way or the other, just saying something I notice at a musical level.
There was also this bizzare rule that a band HAD to have keyboards in order to qualify for being "professional" and allowed to play concerts, so that had quite an impact on the sound and bands like ERA and ER MALAK were quite ahead of their time playing "progressive" thrash with keyboards in the 80s.
Besides, in the 80s there were only two studios in our city, and both had electronic drum kits. So you could be a thrash band, but when recorded and mixed by the local schlager "guru" you would sound like freakish Bon Jovi on crack - hence the "mysterious" sound. Sorry to bust your bubble but couldn't resist telling the truth after so many years
.There were some good local bands though, I shall upload some soon, now that I have finally hooked my tape deck to my computer and can transfer some tapes when time permits. I just found a tape with SPLIN and KOZIROG - amazing Bulgarian steel from late 80s. I wish I had better recordings.
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That was interesting reading. I've read that some East Germany and Russian bands were considered illegal though. Maybe that wasn't in all the communist countries, or maybe it's just a rumor.
In the Metal Archives they say there's a 1992 bootleg CD. Anyone heard it? What does this band sound like?anthares wrote:Placenta - demo! I am not sure anymore if it even exist!
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Interesting stuff!
It sure helps playing some authentic, aggressive music, when you are oppressed by the state, but I can live without it, thank you
I think there were many great east European bands, that where ignored in the west, bands like Turbo, Kat or even a band like Vader should have gotten more attention here. Especially the big music mags, where I read many negative critics. Suckers!
On the other hand, there aren’t many great bands (from what i know) from places like North Korea, Belarus, Cuba or the Arabic nations...
It sure helps playing some authentic, aggressive music, when you are oppressed by the state, but I can live without it, thank you
I think there were many great east European bands, that where ignored in the west, bands like Turbo, Kat or even a band like Vader should have gotten more attention here. Especially the big music mags, where I read many negative critics. Suckers!
On the other hand, there aren’t many great bands (from what i know) from places like North Korea, Belarus, Cuba or the Arabic nations...
This sounds like a fascinating effect to me. Any mp3s handy of these bands?There was also this bizzare rule that a band HAD to have keyboards in order to qualify for being "professional" and allowed to play concerts, so that had quite an impact on the sound and bands like ERA and ER MALAK were quite ahead of their time playing "progressive" thrash with keyboards in the 80s.
Stormspell is right concerning recordings and sounds, these were not made to be cult or cool back then. They sound different because of different technics in studio and knowledge of engineers back then. During the Iron Curtain tinmes people hardly got abroad (only very few chosen people got chance to go to Western countries (or even Eastern countries like East-Germany, Hungary, Yugoslavia etc) so engineers were not so up-to-date + poor equipment too. I think most Eastern bands worshipped Western gods (like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Metallica or Bathory) and can be called lousy copycats in many cases. In past 8 years or so I have noticed this praising of old Eastern bands and to me it seems that some metal head want to differ from his neighbour metal-head listening so called ultra obscure Eastern bands that almost no-one cared when these came out originally (because those recordings were behind their time back then already). So when comparing ten best albums from West and 10 from east then 9 out of 10 would go to western recording in my case! Only Masters Hammer might have some chances in comparison (Tormentor is cool to but nothing beats the original BATHORY!).
During Soviet times bands here needed to have permission to make public gigs, so they performed in front of "court" and if you had the "right "songs then you got permission for live gigs, but in many cases rock bands did not get the licence to play live. It was like that even in 1986/87 , after it went more easy.
In East Germany you had to sing in German and the lyrics got controlled before the songs were pressed on vinyl. That`s why bands such as Formel 1 had to deal with soccer or similiar things in their lyrics...Cochino wrote:That was interesting reading. I've read that some East Germany and Russian bands were considered illegal though. Maybe that wasn't in all the communist countries, or maybe it's just a rumor.