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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:17 am
by The Sentinel
nightsblood wrote:Last Tyrant 7" I saw on ebay (maybe 6 months ago) closed at over $800. Glad it's not on my wantlist (and no, I don't already own it)
The single is ok but nowhere near that incredible demo.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:23 am
by The Sentinel
Avenger wrote:I could never understand how vinyl collectors can afford to buy rare albums at $300+ a piece...
Earning good money I think. I understand why someone would buy a vinyl record for that price ($300), I do sometimes. But I'll never understand buying a cd for that price which occurs pretty often at ebay now.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:38 am
by Nightlock
The Sentinel wrote:
Avenger wrote:I could never understand how vinyl collectors can afford to buy rare albums at $300+ a piece...
Earning good money I think. I understand why someone would buy a vinyl record for that price ($300), I do sometimes. But I'll never understand buying a cd for that price which occurs pretty often at ebay now.
QFT CD collectors are the ones that really get me I can understand collecting a rare CD and paying a lot if it hasn't been re-issued but what I don't understand is paying heaps when an official re-issue with a huge booket, bonus tracks etc is available.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:56 am
by Ensiferum2k7
I can explain why I at times pay good bucks for a cd that has already been reissued.

1. remastering. most cds remastered after 96 are so compressed/loud that they lose any emotion that the album once had. not to mention quite a few of them have clicks/pops that the originals didn't have

2. bonus songs suck 99.6% of the time. period. they add nothing, in fact, they usually detract from an album's awesomeness.

I have no problems with early 90s remasters or some recent remasters, I own a few myself, I just prefer to own the original.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:27 am
by Abyss

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:29 am
by Ensiferum2k7
insane..i bet raully is the top bidder on that one.
i paid 6 bucks for my mint copy : ) one of the few deals i've had in the past year

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:43 am
by The Sentinel
I remember getting the second one (original combat) for 2 gulden (= 1 euro).

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:11 pm
by Noisenik
Ensiferum2k7 wrote: 2. bonus songs suck 99.6% of the time. period. they add nothing, in fact, they usually detract from an album's awesomeness.
Agree 100%. No added value. Ditto for bonus tracks on Japs versions. In most cases it was exclusive averageness for japanese customers.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:33 pm
by Korgüll
Noisenik wrote:Agree 100%. No added value. Ditto for bonus tracks on Japs versions. In most cases it was exclusive averageness for japanese customers.
That's also b'cos the domestic pressings of Jap releases are more expensive than the imports. Hence the reason for the bonus track.. to keep the sales of domestic pressings going...

Actually we should start a new thread of 'Best Jap bonus tracks' ...so we can all go hunting for them...??! :idea:

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:30 pm
by tomas
I also have that Devastation CD. Bought it for cheap ten years ago.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:50 pm
by Noisenik
Korgüll wrote: Actually we should start a new thread of 'Best Jap bonus tracks' ...so we can all go hunting for them...??! :idea:
Go 'head, Tom! Wonder what quality would the word "best" get attained here. there could perhaps be another thread in Poisonoise as well.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:48 pm
by sovdat
I do understand if people are paying $300 for REALLY RARE CDs, the one that appear for sale maybe once every 2, 3 years, even if there's a reissue around - after all some people just collect original CD pressings (1st or at least very early pressings), just like the others are collecting vinyls and will still pay $1000 for original Leather Nunn LP, although there's a reissue on a CD together with 4 great bonus tracks ...
but what I don't understand is that stuff like that Wolf Spider ($200), Despair ($300) and now that Devastation which is already over $200 go for such insane prices, although there's a copy only on ebay every few months at least. On the other hand I've seen way more copies of Morbid Saint CD on the ebay in last year and a half than let's say Wolf Spider's CD, so from that point of view it would be somehow logical that Wolf Spider goes for more. But Morbid Saint was always an expensive CD, and that Wolf Spider used to cost $20 ...

So where's the reason for those prices? Some buyers just don't know how often some CD is available and how pricey is it? Or maybe two buyers, who always get what they want at all costs?

I have too paid more than $100 for few CDs, but all of them were really rare, and most likely the only copy I've seen offered for sale too ...

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:57 pm
by Avenger
sovdat wrote:I do understand if people are paying $300 for REALLY RARE CDs, the one that appear for sale maybe once every 2, 3 years, even if there's a reissue around - after all some people just collect original CD pressings (1st or at least very early pressings), just like the others are collecting vinyls and will still pay $1000 for original Leather Nunn LP, although there's a reissue on a CD together with 4 great bonus tracks ...
but what I don't understand is that stuff like that Wolf Spider ($200), Despair ($300) and now that Devastation which is already over $200 go for such insane prices, although there's a copy only on ebay every few months at least. On the other hand I've seen way more copies of Morbid Saint CD on the ebay in last year and a half than let's say Wolf Spider's CD, so from that point of view it would be somehow logical that Wolf Spider goes for more. But Morbid Saint was always an expensive CD, and that Wolf Spider used to cost $20 ...

So where's the reason for those prices? Some buyers just don't know how often some CD is available and how pricey is it? Or maybe two buyers, who always get what they want at all costs?

I have too paid more than $100 for few CDs, but all of them were really rare, and most likely the only copy I've seen offered for sale too ...
Now the question is Mr. Sovdat, what did you pay for Sanctum and Axiom CD's?

Do those fall into that category? :)

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:54 pm
by DMR
Noisenik wrote:
Ensiferum2k7 wrote: 2. bonus songs suck 99.6% of the time. period. they add nothing, in fact, they usually detract from an album's awesomeness.
Agree 100%. No added value. Ditto for bonus tracks on Japs versions. In most cases it was exclusive averageness for japanese customers.
I agree also. I can understand if it's a song that wasn't available anywhere else, but a lot of times it's just a demo or live version of a song already on the album. How is that a bonus?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:09 pm
by sovdat
Yes, 3 CDs are in that category:
Sanctum
Axiom
ADX