(G.O.T.H.M.I.) wrote:Still waiting on an address to send royalties....
I'm fine without.
nightsblood wrote:You're entitled to your opinion, as am I. To me, your statement reeks of a sense of entitlement. You're saying that if a piece of music exists, then everyone is entitled to get to hear it if they want to.
That mentality is a DIRECT result of the Internet Age. 20 years ago NO ONE would have had such an opinion because there was no way that everyone could even think about hearing everything out there. The closest you could come was to be a mega-tape trader, and even then you knew there was tons of stuff you'd never hear, and it wasn't even an issue. But now that technology allows people to readily share music as data files, more and more people- especially youngsters raised in the post-Napster world- EXPECT to go online and get anything and everything they want to hear for little-no expense. And when someone doesn't indulge their expectation, they get their nose out of joint; "screw you for not giving me free music!". WTF?
There's a distinct difference between the 'internet generation' and this case. The internet generation can start off a day on the internet knowing only Linkin park, and end up listening to Wyzard late at night just by following links. Good evolution? Absolutely not. I've always experienced music to be some kind of learning process. I don't see how you could appreciate the Voor demotapes if you don't have atleast a few years of 'experience' listening to extreme music.
On the other hand we have someone here who obviously heard his fair share of metal over the years, who has a collection not made up of MP3's and who's rightful appreciation of the metal genre probably does not have to be questioned. If someone like this has been looking for a rare release, it's something completely different than a 16 year old kid looking to score every 'hyper-rare' release listed on metal archives.
I'm not pleading to put this music on some blog for everyone to download. Most people are not knowledgeable enough on US metal (myself included) and should better start off with more widely available albums.
nightsblood wrote:So you don't even finish your post before admitting that not all music is meant to be openly available.
How many musicians do you think would readily say, "sure, go ahead and spread my music to everyone for free. I don't want any financial reimbursement; just give it away on your blog so everyone can hear it while I get nothing to pay for my time and trouble"?
Same goes for dealers like Glock- er, Collecter C. Why should he spend hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars traveling the country looking for rare records, and then post all the music online for free so that many people won't even consider buying a copy for more than a few bucks? "Gee, thanks for taking 2 weeks off from work to rummage through every used record store in 5 states, I really appreciate all the food, gas, and hotel bills you racked up- now upload the music for me right now 'cause I don't wanna spend any money buying a copy and I don't wanna go look for it myself".
It never ceases to amaze me how many people want something for nothing.
Yes. If it's the band/musicians wish that a certain piece of music isn't to be spread, I'll be the last one to ever share it.
But in this case the band released a single, which means that atleast at the time they had the intention to spread the music.
You assume some musicians want to get paid for what they do. I assume some musicians are just happy that their music would be spread to people, even if they don't see a dime from it. Since neither you nor me know anyone from the band it's meaningless to make these assumptions. They could love finding their music out there, they could hate finding their music out there.
I've got a few things in my collection which aren't mentioned on the internet/not available for download anywhere. The day someone comes asking for this music, I'll supply this to him at cost (as I've done before), no matter how hard it was to find or how much I've paid for it.
You say you shouldn't share something because people might think it suck, and it will affect the demand and thus price for said record. That, in my mind, is just sick and money-hungry.
My ethical viewpoints on this are obviously far away from many other forumusers. I might have more companions in a crustforum
I respect people who go out and dig for records. And I don't expect anyone to share his entire collection with everyone on the internet. But between devote fans of a genre, there shouldn't be this secrecy. Unless you don't trust the person asking because you're afraid he might put it on some blog/download site or (even worse) produce a bootleg, I'd not have a problem with sharing anything from my collection.
Anyway, I got a few bits and pieces of commentary on what you wrote left, but I've got a headache (unrelated to this) so I'll just leave it at this.
