Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:12 pm
If the demos of KARIAN count, it's their fourth one...MassOfKthulu wrote:Don Van Stavern wrote most of thundersteel,and i kinda consider it SA Slayer 's third release.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:35 pm
Top 20 is very difficult indeed, here are some that would be in it though.
Brocus Helm - Into Battle
Breaker - Get Tough.
Griffin - Flight of The Griffin.
Savage Grace - Master of Disguise.
Cirith Ungol - King of The Dead.
Brocus Helm - Into Battle
Breaker - Get Tough.
Griffin - Flight of The Griffin.
Savage Grace - Master of Disguise.
Cirith Ungol - King of The Dead.
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:01 pm
I listened to both today for direct comparison, and although Thundersteel is outstanding (and I'd prefer to include them both in my listThe Sentinel wrote:Thundersteel is an awesome album but The Privilege of Power has the track "Black Leather and Glittering Steel", one of the best metaltunes in existence, pure magic!!!!!!!
) I still hold Privilege of Power a little bit higher, a real masterpiece for me. I even dig that horn section, this is the little extra, that makes it so special!Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:22 am
Hmm ...hard to say since demos can be part of that....
DEATH infernal death demo
ATHEIST U.P. pre production demo
SLAYER show no mercy
SLAYER hell awaits
SLAYER south of heaven
SLAYER haunting the chapel
ATHEIST U.P.
ATHEIST piece of time
ANTHRAX fistfull of metal
ANVIL CHORUS demo 83
ATTACKER the second coming
INSANITY demo 85
REPULSION demo 5/86
TERRORIZER demo 8/87
DEATH STRIKE demo 85
EXODUS another lesson in violence
FORBIDDEN forbidden evil
FORBIDDEN demo 11/92
HEATHEN victims of deception
JAG PANZER ample destruction
21 MORBID ANGEL domination
22 TERRORIZER Demo 4/87
23 RIOT fire down under
24 SLAUTER XSTROYES free the beast
25 TROUBLE 1st
DEATH infernal death demo
ATHEIST U.P. pre production demo
SLAYER show no mercy
SLAYER hell awaits
SLAYER south of heaven
SLAYER haunting the chapel
ATHEIST U.P.
ATHEIST piece of time
ANTHRAX fistfull of metal
ANVIL CHORUS demo 83
ATTACKER the second coming
INSANITY demo 85
REPULSION demo 5/86
TERRORIZER demo 8/87
DEATH STRIKE demo 85
EXODUS another lesson in violence
FORBIDDEN forbidden evil
FORBIDDEN demo 11/92
HEATHEN victims of deception
JAG PANZER ample destruction
21 MORBID ANGEL domination
22 TERRORIZER Demo 4/87
23 RIOT fire down under
24 SLAUTER XSTROYES free the beast
25 TROUBLE 1st
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:04 am
I concentrated in EPIC/HEAVY/SPEED/POWER aka US Metal sounding bands and left out all pre-80s stuff, hard rock, doom, thrash & death.
Otherwise there would be stuff like PENTAGRAM, SAINT VITUS, NOCTURNUS, MORBID ANGEL, SLAYER, HOLY TERROR etc.
In no particular order
1. BROCAS HELM - Into Battle
2. CIRITH UNGOL - King Of The Dead
3. CEREBUS - Too Late To Pray
4. CRIMSON GLORY - Crimson Glory
5. DRUID - Seven Curses (It is that good you damn posers!
)
6. FATES WARNING - Awaken The Guardian
7. GRIFFIN - Flight Of The Griffin
8. MANILLA ROAD - Crystal Logic
9. MANOWAR - Sign Of The Hammer/Into Glory Ride
10. MAX PLANCK - Kill The Pain (Only demo in my list. Just couldn't let this one pass.)
11. MEDIEVAL STEEL - Medieval Steel
12. METAL CHURCH - Metal Church/The Dark
13. OMEN - Battle Cry
14. OVERKILL - Feel The Fire
15. QUEENSRÿCHE - The Warning
16. RIOT - Thundersteel
17. SATAN'S HOST - Metal From Hell
18. SAVAGE GRACE - Master Of Disguise
19. SAVATAGE - The Dungeons Are Calling
20. SHOK PARIS - Steel And Starlight (Title track is emotionally couraging
metal perfection)
.... wait there must be more!
21. ATTACKER - Battle At Helm's Deep
22. BLACK DEATH - Black Death
23. CULPRIT - Guilty As Charged
24. GLACIER - Glacier
25. HELSTAR - Nosferatu
26. JAG PANZER - Ample Destruction
27. KILLEN - Killen
28. SLAUTER XSTROYES - Winter Kill
29. PURGATORY - Tied To The Trax
30. TYRANT - Legions Of The Dead
Bands bubling under, could rise in future: Liege Lord, Energy Vampires, Coven, Gargoyle, Halloween, Ripper, Lords Of The Crimson Alliance, Inner Sanctum, Tension, Siren, Thrust, Psychotic Waltz, Prisoner, Salem's Wych, Emerald.
Otherwise there would be stuff like PENTAGRAM, SAINT VITUS, NOCTURNUS, MORBID ANGEL, SLAYER, HOLY TERROR etc.
In no particular order
1. BROCAS HELM - Into Battle
2. CIRITH UNGOL - King Of The Dead
3. CEREBUS - Too Late To Pray
4. CRIMSON GLORY - Crimson Glory
5. DRUID - Seven Curses (It is that good you damn posers!
)6. FATES WARNING - Awaken The Guardian
7. GRIFFIN - Flight Of The Griffin
8. MANILLA ROAD - Crystal Logic
9. MANOWAR - Sign Of The Hammer/Into Glory Ride
10. MAX PLANCK - Kill The Pain (Only demo in my list. Just couldn't let this one pass.)
11. MEDIEVAL STEEL - Medieval Steel
12. METAL CHURCH - Metal Church/The Dark
13. OMEN - Battle Cry
14. OVERKILL - Feel The Fire
15. QUEENSRÿCHE - The Warning
16. RIOT - Thundersteel
17. SATAN'S HOST - Metal From Hell
18. SAVAGE GRACE - Master Of Disguise
19. SAVATAGE - The Dungeons Are Calling
20. SHOK PARIS - Steel And Starlight (Title track is emotionally couraging
metal perfection)
.... wait there must be more!
21. ATTACKER - Battle At Helm's Deep
22. BLACK DEATH - Black Death
23. CULPRIT - Guilty As Charged
24. GLACIER - Glacier
25. HELSTAR - Nosferatu
26. JAG PANZER - Ample Destruction
27. KILLEN - Killen
28. SLAUTER XSTROYES - Winter Kill
29. PURGATORY - Tied To The Trax
30. TYRANT - Legions Of The Dead
Bands bubling under, could rise in future: Liege Lord, Energy Vampires, Coven, Gargoyle, Halloween, Ripper, Lords Of The Crimson Alliance, Inner Sanctum, Tension, Siren, Thrust, Psychotic Waltz, Prisoner, Salem's Wych, Emerald.
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:15 pm
They be British.The Erlking wrote: 28. PREYER - Terminator
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:39 pm
Didn't he just co write about half of the album? Gotta check the booklet again.MassOfKthulu wrote:Don Van Stavern wrote most of thundersteel,and i kinda consider it SA Slayer 's third release. Privilege was SA Slayer 's and Riot 's bastard kid
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:11 pm
OH my mistake.Satan Is Our Pal wrote:They be British.The Erlking wrote: 28. PREYER - Terminator
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:13 pm
Seems there's lots more US metal I need to hear, like Heir Apparent for example. I don't think I ever heard them.
It's just that I am somewhat sceptical towards US metal at times. I love the epic and/or quirky stuff like Manilla Road, Brocas Helm or Cirith Ungol, as well as the stuff with the slightly progressive element to it, like Fates Warning, Crimson Glory, Queensrÿche or Savatage. But if it's just straight US power metal with high pitch vocals, like Helstar, Liege Lord or Attacker, I get easily bored.
It's just that I am somewhat sceptical towards US metal at times. I love the epic and/or quirky stuff like Manilla Road, Brocas Helm or Cirith Ungol, as well as the stuff with the slightly progressive element to it, like Fates Warning, Crimson Glory, Queensrÿche or Savatage. But if it's just straight US power metal with high pitch vocals, like Helstar, Liege Lord or Attacker, I get easily bored.
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:02 pm
Straight? Pick up Battle at Helm's Deep and reconsider!mordred wrote:But if it's just straight US power metal with high pitch vocals, like (...) Attacker, I get easily bored.
+ Soul Taker is one of the greatest song released over the last 10-20 years.
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:39 pm
Mordred i get what u mean about Attacker Helstar etc
there's another factor to consider about this,the 83-6 US metal (maiden/priest influences,more 'pure stuff) and the 87-90 US metal -much more distortion and technicality goes into it
since you mentioned helstar,the differences between burning star and nosferatu are a prime example of what i'm talking about
there's another factor to consider about this,the 83-6 US metal (maiden/priest influences,more 'pure stuff) and the 87-90 US metal -much more distortion and technicality goes into it
since you mentioned helstar,the differences between burning star and nosferatu are a prime example of what i'm talking about
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:12 am
looking through all the lists i would sound repetitive in almost all my top 20...still i can mention my latest US playlists:
Lethal-Programmed
Bitch-Be my Slave
Tyrant-Too late to Pray
Militia-The Sybling
Leather Nunn-Take the Night
Chozzen Phate-everything from them, just perfect
Ruthless-Metal without Mercy
Culprit-Guilty as Charged
and talking about RIOT,just as most of you, THUNDERSTEEL is my all time favorite album from them, but im starting to develope a weird addiction towards FIRE DOWN UNDER
Lethal-Programmed
Bitch-Be my Slave
Tyrant-Too late to Pray
Militia-The Sybling
Leather Nunn-Take the Night
Chozzen Phate-everything from them, just perfect
Ruthless-Metal without Mercy
Culprit-Guilty as Charged
and talking about RIOT,just as most of you, THUNDERSTEEL is my all time favorite album from them, but im starting to develope a weird addiction towards FIRE DOWN UNDER
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:42 am
My favorite Riot albums are FDU and Inishmore. Thundersteel wouldn't even make the top 5!
Some favorites to add, most of mine have been mentioned already:
Beowulf - Slice of Life
Metal Church - Live
Trouble - s/t
and I doubt this one is allowed, although it has many "inherited" American characteristics:
Motorhead - Bastards
Some favorites to add, most of mine have been mentioned already:
Beowulf - Slice of Life
Metal Church - Live
Trouble - s/t
and I doubt this one is allowed, although it has many "inherited" American characteristics:
Motorhead - Bastards
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:17 pm
Professor Black wrote:My favorite Riot albums are FDU and Inishmore. Thundersteel wouldn't even make the top 5!
Some favorites to add, most of mine have been mentioned already:
Beowulf - Slice of Life
Metal Church - Live
Trouble - s/t
and I doubt this one is allowed, although it has many "inherited" American characteristics:
Motorhead - Bastards
years since i listen to that Motorhead album, i thought me and my brother were the only ones that thought of "bastards" as the most "heavy" material from Lemmy and co. 
cheerz for that!Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:20 pm
Is there NO ONE else who like the 1st ALIAS LP??? Do you guys know this band???
