There were some sound clips (not full songs) of Liquid Earth floating around. Definitely a raw, early HM sound. I liked it, but not enough to pay > $1,000 for a water-damaged copy
ION BRITTON wrote:
From my experience and from some of the people I've met, I can assure you that many of those collectors aren't really interested in the music more than the piece of plastic itself. They are collecting metal just as they would be collecting stamps. No real love for the music,
Fair enough if that's your experience. Most of the 'big time' collectors i've interacted with really enjoy the music and bands, so i guess we're hanging out with different crowds
hardly supporting the bands, not going to gigs etc.
'Going to gigs' isn't always easy, especially for us older fans with full-time jobs and families, not to mention US fans who get few shows to begin with, especially in some parts of the country. Just like some folks can't spend tons on expensive records, I can spend a ton flying to Europe 2-3 times a year to attend all the cool festivals (that never occur in the US).
I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'supporting the bands'. If we're talking about old, disbanded groups, there's usually not much one can do to support them. For groups still active, you can buy the cd and attend a gig if they come to your area. Other than that, I'm not sure.
Showing off their rare records is what they think that makes them special and truer than the rest who can't afford paying such prices. The way I understand heavy metal and the way I feel it, I can tell that those are not real fans. That doesn't mean that all of them are like that, but from what I've experienced so far many of them are. It might sound insulting and you'd think that I might be jealous that I can't buy those rarities, in fact I don't give a damn about 2 autographs and misprinted labels, its the music that is above all for me, if I can afford buying a record I will do it and lately I am trying to make sure that the money I spend goes to the bands/labels and not to the hands of the greedy sellers.
Truth is that I didn't explain it much before, but you could have asked for some explanation instead or writing things like "only the dollar cut-out bin is "tr00" or 'anyone who pays big bucks for records is not a 'real fan' things that I did not say neither I was implying. You said yourself that 'I know there are some high-dollar collectors that have no interest in the music' and that's exactly what I was implying.
All true, and I did point out that I might not be understanding you correctly. Apologies for the misunderstanding.
It sounds like you've had to deal with some collector-snobs, which is never fun
I agree that people with the "my vinyl is rarer than your vinyl" mentality suck.
Personally, I've had more issues with anti-collector snobs, the types who think anyone paying more that $50 for a record is some upper-class elitist jerk conspiring to keep everyone else from hearing certain records. Those types are also annoying; if a person can afford to pay $1,000 for a water-damaged Liquid Earth, well, power to 'em!
I think we're pretty much on the same page; buy the albums you enjoy if/when you can afford them, get 'em from an honest dealer/distrib, and piss off to anyone who thinks they're better than someone else because they spend more (or less) money on rare records.
Sorry to have gotten the thread off-topic; let's get back to watching that Liquid Earth now
Apologies again for the misunderstanding
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