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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:07 pm
by GJ
I'm pretty satisfied with how things have turned out.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:17 pm
by ION BRITTON
Personally, I could have lived without Deep Purple or any single note of hammond organ in metal.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:20 pm
by Cochino
I vote for that reason to be removed. As much as one might like a hammond organ is certainly not one of the 1001 reasons why Heavy Metal rules, 99% of Heavy Metal doesn't have hammond organs, and the little that does have it, sucks most of the time.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:33 pm
by MEXDefenderOfSteel
hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:41 pm
by bigfootkit
I would have said that it's a valid opinion, some Metal does have Hammond on it and the OP finds that to be a reason why HM rules.
It's his opinion and he's entitled to it despite what the rest of us may feel on the subject.
The black/death/corpsepaint stuff does nothing for me, but i can't (and wouldn't), exclude it just because it's not my thing.
The reasons why heavy metal rules are myriad and many hued, it's a broad enough church that there should be room for all it's many shades.
Personally i enjoy the Hammond on '60's/'70's proto style stuff, but the only "recent" bands i've heard using it effectively have been SPIRITUAL BEGGARS and MYSTICK KREWE OF CLEARLIGHT.
However there are a great many bands down the years who have used it sparingly on the occasional song for mood or a little colour & texture. If only for that reason i say the nomination should stand.
"Orion" without the growl of the organ? Unthinkable.

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:50 pm
by Cochino
The main objection I have is that hammond represents other genres. If you say hammond no one is gonna think about heavy metal. That's why I think is not a valid point.
When he said:
508. The Demo version of Frost and Fire with the awesome Synthesizer.
That's a valid point because is synthesizer on a metal context, but just saying "hammond organ solos", that has nothing to do with metal to me.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:44 am
by GJ
Totally agree with Cochino (except maybe that I don't really care if it remains on the list). Personally I just can't see (feel) the Heavy Metal/Hammond connection.

513. The lack of hammond organ solos.

:D

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:30 am
by The Erlking
MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM
Uh I can think of many great metal songs/albums with good and atmospheric synth stuff thrown in but not so many with that hammond sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCjpKsBf44

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:33 am
by The Erlking
Deep Purple rules though

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:59 am
by GJ
The Erlking wrote:Deep Purple rules though
Yup! They do.


Test: Imagine Fast as a shark with hammond organ.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:03 pm
by MEXDefenderOfSteel
The Erlking wrote:
MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM
Uh I can think of many great metal songs/albums with good and atmospheric synth stuff thrown in but not so many with that hammond sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCjpKsBf44
Cool band, but just not my type of "metal"

514.Associating HM with speed,certainly a good rush while driving ur car fast!

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:04 pm
by ION BRITTON
GJ wrote:
The Erlking wrote:Deep Purple rules though
Yup! They do.
No, they don't. They never did. It's just another example of a so-called ''classic'' band that doesn't mean shit to me.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:11 pm
by Cochino
I haven't heard everything from them and I've heard a lot of things I didn't like but Machine Head is a great album.
Of course, Deep Purple doesn't come even near to Black Sabbath.
Oh, and thanks, GJ, that evens up the list :wink:

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:16 pm
by Black Axe
Cochino wrote:I haven't heard everything from them and I've heard a lot of things I didn't like but Machine Head is a great album.
Of course, Deep Purple doesn't come even near to Black Sabbath.
Oh, and thanks, GJ, that evens up the list :wink:
Deep Purple + In Rock >> Machine Head. I love Deep Purple up to and including Perfect Strangers.
GJ wrote:Test: Imagine Fast as a shark with hammond organ.
Imagine Blitzkrieg's Blitzkrieg with a Hammond Organ. Oh no, you don't have to, it exists. :D

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:20 pm
by The Erlking
MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:
The Erlking wrote:
MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:hammond sound sounds great if bands know where to put it...but just that type of sound,any other "keyboard thing" fails big time in real HM
Uh I can think of many great metal songs/albums with good and atmospheric synth stuff thrown in but not so many with that hammond sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gCjpKsBf44
Cool band, but just not my type of "metal"
Well there are lots of other examples too. Do you like Saracen? 8)