Bootleg Warning Thread - CD (2012)

Shimrod · Post by **Shimrod** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:54 am

Priamos wrote:All I have to mention for his defence (as you might suspected I know the guy) is that he always gives a warning ("later edition", "later private press" etc) when it comes to a bootleg and he doesn't try to pass it for original.

This is not true, his Loud Crowd CD for instance is probably the same bootleg sold by Greek sellers. His Trouble - Manic Frustration album is also a bootleg. And I don't see any warning on them.

Priamos · Post by **Priamos** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:36 pm

Shimrod wrote:
Priamos wrote:All I have to mention for his defence (as you might suspected I know the guy) is that he always gives a warning ("later edition", "later private press" etc) when it comes to a bootleg and he doesn't try to pass it for original.
This is not true, his Loud Crowd CD for instance is probably the same bootleg sold by Greek sellers. His Trouble - Manic Frustration album is also a bootleg. And I don't see any warning on them.

Yeah...I checked the examples you mentioned... There is no doubt that he claims both for original. Now we need a daring man to buy them to see if they are bootlegs or not!

No kidding, if they are bootlegs indeed, then he is a major scumbag and I'm really sorry I wasted even a second on him and I harmed my reputation by defending him.

Shimrod · Post by **Shimrod** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:49 pm

I now had more time to browse his shop. There are other examples that look fishy: Saint's albums on Pure Metal (original for this cheap?), Risk albums (he sold many according to his feedbacks and they are really cheap), Vicious Rumors on Atlantic, Cirith Ungol compilation, etc. And I'm not talking about private (= legally self-released from the bands) releases for which he sells bootlegs (Visitor, Kryst, Medieval Steel).

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:24 am

Priamos wrote:he always gives a warning ("later edition", "later private press" etc)

Or he could just flat out say, "bootleg".

Priamos · Post by **Priamos** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:34 am

Avenger wrote:
Priamos wrote:he always gives a warning ("later edition", "later private press" etc)
Or he could just flat out say, "bootleg".

This would have been better for everyone. But I guess its either they prefer to leave it "vague" and some (many) get misled or it's just they are afraid that if they admit it openly, someone will press charges against them. But something more diplomatic but still clear (like "unofficial") could do if they realy wanted not to mislead someone.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:54 pm

thanks for the heads up everyone, actually i asked because i know that user has some kind of a fishy "reputation"

ensiferum2k19 · Post by **ensiferum2k19** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:27 am

new bootleg?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TYRANTS-REIGN-T ... 53f080bc3f

anyone know the differences?
got my copy from an illinois dealer last year for 25 bucks(sealed)
probably not the bootleg, but i am curious

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:23 pm

Hey, I don't know how you can forget your pwd all the times ^^

Post some scan of your cd, I'll compare to mine ... quite sure it's the original as i bought it some 7 years ago.

ensiferum2k19 · Post by **ensiferum2k19** » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:54 pm

give me the matrix :>
i havent checked this site in months
easy to forget

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:16 am

ensiferum2k19 wrote:new bootleg?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TYRANTS-REIGN-T ... 53f080bc3f

anyone know the differences?
got my copy from an illinois dealer last year for 25 bucks(sealed)
probably not the bootleg, but i am curious

The bootleg has been out for a while now. There's no point typing matrix text any more these days as most of the recent boots are the same. You need a scan for comparison or you are going to get ripped off.

thrashidolatry · Post by **thrashidolatry** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:18 pm

I'm very puzzled about a ebay-user called paul_a_royd (http://myworld.ebay.ch/paul_a_royd/?_trksid=p4340.l2559)
According to his feedback he has sold over 10 copies of Grinder - Dawn For The Living alone in 2012, and I already saw some copies earlier, every copy was sold for between 40-80 Euros.
Here's the recent auction: http://www.ebay.ch/itm/Grinder-Dawn-for ... 667wt_1397
My question now, could he just put the bootleg in yellow trays to make it look like the original?

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:45 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VULTURE-Easier- ... 53f0f9bc7d

I wonder what happened to the guy that made these boots. he was the public enemy number one in many CD collector circles and now it semms he dissapeared.

Troma · Post by **Troma** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:05 pm

thrashidolatry wrote:I'm very puzzled about a ebay-user called paul_a_royd (http://myworld.ebay.ch/paul_a_royd/?_trksid=p4340.l2559)
According to his feedback he has sold over 10 copies of Grinder - Dawn For The Living alone in 2012, and I already saw some copies earlier, every copy was sold for between 40-80 Euros.
Here's the recent auction: http://www.ebay.ch/itm/Grinder-Dawn-for ... 667wt_1397
My question now, could he just put the bootleg in yellow trays to make it look like the original?

simply: No!

He is acutally an ex-member of the band if i remember right, it was Stefan Arnold, thats why he has so many copies.

Also the case looks like an old one from 80s/90s.

Helstar · Post by **Helstar** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:38 pm

Heathen wrote: I wonder what happened to the guy that made these boots. he was the public enemy number one in many CD collector circles and now it semms he dissapeared.

I hope he's gone for good. Probably somebody sued him, his ebay account is shut down. That should happen for every fuckin bootleger too !

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:19 am

Heathen wrote:I wonder what happened to the guy that made these boots. he was the public enemy number one in many CD collector circles and now it semms he dissapeared.

He is alive and well, see him posting on one of the forums I frequent quite often.