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Junkyard Barbarian wrote:I would like to know... where can I get some Hell material?? I am desperatingly searching for their stuff, which by all reviews I read, seems to be godly. And I haven't even found mp3s... anybody could help me??

I got all the Hell stuff on CDR from this website:
http://www.theundergroundcollection.com/?show=H

Edwin (ex-Pentacle) runs the site & he's great to deal with!

He has tons of incredible stuff so check it all out!

No need to start a new NWOBHM 7" thread when there's a perfectly decent old one...

So have anyone made any "new" discoveries lately? I've been downloading craploads from Bigfootkit's blog this week and discovered plenty of goodies like MOBY DICK, VHF, ENERGY etc.. I need more! Fire away!

I'll be "firing away" on Sunday or Monday with a new post Dan, only one NWOBHM item this time, but i think you'll enjoy it.

My 2 cents, sticking to singles & EPs. I'm sure there are plenty of great & terrible ones I've just never heard

Top 20:
Charger- desperadoes
Mendes Prey- on to the borderline
Virtue- we stand to fight
JJs Powerhouse- runnin for the line
Triarchy- save the khan
Lotus Cruise- billy's got a gun
iona- you ain't a lady
Mythra- death & destiny
Denigh- running
Crucifixion- take it or leave it
Blitzkrieg- blitzkrieg
Apocalypse- storm child
Jaguar- back street woman
Jaguar- axe crazy
Persian Risk- riding high
Sapphire- jealousy
Sweet Savage- take no prisoners
Traitors Gate- dvil takes the high road
Scarab- poltergeist
Weapon- it's a mad mad world

EDIT- forgot to include Reincarnate- take it or leave it. Guess it's the Top 21 now

A few honorable mentions (tend to have 1 outstanding song and oe more average song)
Seventh Son- immortal hours
Wikkid Vykkr-black of the night
China Doll- oysters and wine

Worst 20: (debateable whether some should be identified as NWOBHM):
Anniversary- give me a smile
Overdrive- on the run
Anthem- england
Hell- save us from those who would save us (sorry to buck the trend, but I can't stand this band)
Camargue- howl of the pack
Horsepower- outrageous
Atlantis Rising- tightrope
Earthbound- the prophet
Mithrandir- dreamers of fortune (haven't heard their other one)
Shock Treatment- the mugger
Slender Thread- i see the lght
Slowtrain- ronnie
Liasion- play it with passion
Legend- hideaway
Megaton- aluminum lady
Impact- days gone by
skitzofrenik- usa
Lonewolf- cash for candy
requiem- angel of sin
shiva- angel of mons

Great post nightsblood!

Out of your top 20 there are still a few I haven't heard I.E: Lotus Cruise, Denigh, Sapphire and Weapon (Which I've seen a lot but never went for!). Will have to check out since I have very similar N.W.O.B.H.M. taste.

About the worst 20 I've just bought Horsepower so I'll add my opinion sometime soon I read on the new and improved blog that they're actually American though which is interesting. I LOVE that Shiva single "Angel of Mons" is amazing melodic N.W.O.B.H.M. in my opinion I've also got a bit of a thing for the Megaton single although it is unquestionably silly, got to love the conviction of the b-side though so metal with the echo "CAUSE I'M A DIEHARD hard.. hard".

I should do something like your post sometime soon, though it's off to bed now.

nightsblood wrote:My 2 cents, sticking to singles & EPs. I'm sure there are plenty of great & terrible ones I've just never heard

Top 20:
Charger- desperadoes
Mendes Prey- on to the borderline
Virtue- we stand to fight
JJs Powerhouse- runnin for the line
Triarchy- save the khan
Lotus Cruise- billy's got a gun
iona- you ain't a lady
Mythra- death & destiny
Denigh- running
Crucifixion- take it or leave it
Blitzkrieg- blitzkrieg
Apocalypse- storm child
Jaguar- back street woman
Jaguar- axe crazy
Persian Risk- riding high
Sapphire- jealousy
Sweet Savage- take no prisoners
Traitors Gate- dvil takes the high road
Scarab- poltergeist
Weapon- it's a mad mad world

A few honorable mentions (tend to have 1 outstanding song and oe more average song)
Seventh Son- immortal hours
Wikkid Vykkr-black of the night
China Doll- oysters and wine

Worst 20: (debateable whether some should be identified as NWOBHM):
Anniversary- give me a smile
Overdrive- on the run
Anthem- england
Hell- save us from those who would save us (sorry to buck the trend, but I can't stand this band)
Camargue- howl of the pack
Horsepower- outrageous
Atlantis Rising- tightrope
Earthbound- the prophet
Mithrandir- dreamers of fortune (haven't heard their other one)
Shock Treatment- the mugger
Slender Thread- i see the lght
Slowtrain- ronnie
Liasion- play it with passion
Legend- hideaway
Megaton- aluminum lady
Impact- days gone by
skitzofrenik- usa
Lonewolf- cash for candy
requiem- angel of sin
shiva- angel of mons

You kicked some serious ass!

I'll stand up also to defend "Angel Of Mons" by Shiva! It's not the heaviest stuff around for sure but I just love it.

Interesting choices all 'round, i don't think i could narrow down my favourites to just a top 20.
I'm surprised the Wikkid Vykkr-black of the night single seems to rated highly by so many of you, the weak vocals always spoiled my enjoyment of it.
Different strokes for different folks eh?
I'm also a fan of Shiva's Angel Of Mons, an underrated and really atmospheric piece.
Bleak House are another interesting band with some outstanding material, and i love the Jersey band Legend.
Demon Pact's Eaten Alive is a cracker too, i love that filthy guitar tone.
It's interesting to me that everyone seems to have a different idea of what the term "NWOBHM" should mean.
At the time here in the UK, "Heavy Metal" was a catch-all phrase that covered everything from Sabbath & Motorhead to UFO & Kiss. There really weren't any names for subgenres of the music, so the subgenres didn't really exist to us, anything with Heavy guitar parts was considered Heavy Metal.
Just look at some of the bands who appeared at the early Donington Monsters Of Rock festivals: Touch, Uriah Heep, Hawkwind, Status Quo, Meatloaf, all playing alongside the likes of Anvil, Rainbow, Riot, Judas Priest and Saxon.
So if some of the material that falls under the NWOBHM umbrella doesn't seem to fit the bill, it's little wonder, as the term itself was a very broad church.
There were attempts later to clarify things slightly around '83, when the likes of Marillion, Pallas, IQ, Pendragon, Tamarisk and the like were grouped together by the press under the unweildy term "NWOBPR" (New Wave Of British Progressive Rock), the bands were too disparate however to be lumped under such a heading.
A few years earlier, rightly or wrongly, they'd have been considered NWOBHM bands.
That was always one of the strengths of the movement to me, there was such variety and individuality amongst the bands.
Also, because the bands more often than not financed their own recordings, circumstances dictated that their strongest material was what was released, whether it was a demo tape or a 45 or ep, the bands were acutely aware that there was a lot of competition, so they had to grab your attention with their best material.
There was no point keeping good songs back "for the album", as the chances were you'd never get to make one, and a lot of the singles were made as mementos for the bands fans, so often they'd contain the most popular songs from the bands live sets, and were intended for sale at gigs.
It was an exciting time for music, unfortunately we seem unlikely to see the likes again.

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Worst 20: (debateable whether some should be identified as NWOBHM):
Anniversary- give me a smile
Anthem- england
Camargue- howl of the pack
Horsepower- outrageous
Atlantis Rising- tightrope
Earthbound- the prophet
Mithrandir- dreamers of fortune (haven't heard their other one)
Shock Treatment- the mugger
Slender Thread- i see the lght
Slowtrain- ronnie
Liasion- play it with passion
Legend- hideaway
Impact- days gone by
requiem- angel of sin
[/quote]

I agree with those above. Not necessarily all crap, but surely many of zero interest and some, yes, not even nwobhm.

I still can't get into that Requiem 7". I have tried more than 4-5 different times to listen to it, but the songs don't do much to me. It is heavy/doomy metal, however i really can't see what's so overly exciting about it.

Shiva's "Angel of mons" is one my favorite melodic nwobhm tunes, up there with the best of its kind.

I've just noticed a great phenomena I didn't before. I love when people name the single not after the a-side but rather the track they like best on the single.

Keeping to just singles and EP's like nightsblood here's my top

Charger - Desperadoes
Persian Risk - Calling For You
Virtue - We Stand to Fight
Scarab - Poltergeist
Traitors Gate - Devil Takes the High Road
Jameson Raid - The Jameson Raid Story End of Part One
Black Axe - Highway Rider With Red Lights
Tok-io Rose - Bad Girls
Marquis De Sade - Somewhere Up in the Mountains
Satan - Kiss of Death
Cynic - Suicide
Mendes Prey - On the Borderline
Persian Risk - Riding High
Triarchy - Save the Khan
After Dark - Evil Women
Shiva - Angel of Mons
Reincarnate - Take it or Leave it
Iona - Cry For the Innocent
Y Diawled - Noson y Blaidd
Dawnwatcher - Spellbound
Dawnwatcher - Backlash
Hell - Save us From Those who Would Save us
Satanic Rites - Live to Ride

Plus I'm sure there's at least five great ones I'm missing...

Tracks of gold (Singles that have one amazing track but lack for the rest)...

Stagefright - Strangers in the Night
Streetfighter - Crazy Dream

Just off the top of my head:

Aragorn - Black Ice
ARC - War Of The Ring
Bashful Alley - Running Blind
Bleak House - Lions In Winter
Cynic - Suicide
Dawnwatcher - Spellbound
Diawled - Both singles
Dragster - Ambitions
Energy - Conquer The World
Hollow Ground - Warlord
J.J's Powerhouse - Running For The Line
Lightning Raiders - Both singles
Mendes Prey - On To The Borderline
Mythra - Death And Destiny
Ore - Your Time Will Come
Overkill - Elemental
Phyne Thanquz - Into The Sun (The b-side is absolutely wonderful, sadly this single is completely impossible to find. Thanks to Bigfootkit for putting it on his blog a while ago!)
Prowler - Alcatraz
Raw Deal - Out Of My Head
Scarab - Poltergeist
Shock Treatment - The Mugger (You don't like it? Why don't you sell it to me for a few bucks then!)
Snakebite - Blow You Away
Valhalla - Lightning In The Sky
VHF - Heart Of Stone

My fave are the classic Marquis De Sade, Triarchy, Virtue and Hell 7"s...

Khnud wrote: Valhalla - Lightning In The Sky

Yes! I love that single too. Did that band ever record any demos?

One i forgot to mention is Fist's "Name Rank & Serial Number"/"You'll Never Get me Up in One Of Those". Not the rarest record by any means, but it meant so much to me as a young rocker, and the songs still stand up brilliantly.
No love here for Fist?

Sure, I dig Fist, but I actually haven't heard that particular single for some strange reason.

I'd love to see a return of the "Gotta Get 'Em All!"-post on the Live & Otherwise blog by the way.