LaGouille wrote:I've always heard people complain that many packages shipped to Italy never arrive to the point that it's almost common fact and that many dealers simply refuse to ship there, even registered.
I've never had any problems but except for a one record order I always ship there via registered mail.
I've heard....so it's almost common fact....I've never had any problem
Those who heard never sent because they heard it's bad: dramaticaly bad, almost a catastrophe, never seen such terrible situation before, almost unbelievable. Even if they try and they success, they heard it's anyway shit. Can't be otherwise even if your personal experience proved the contrary.
Those who sent (and they're the majority in this topic) prove there are more success than failures.
I traded with France and Ireland around 100 times between September 2012-2013 and everything was so smooth and fast but I never realized that irish and french people experienced (or know somebody who experienced) so many disasters and catastrophes with Italy. I feel lucky, I guess. I won over grandeur and stealing potatoes, maybe: or being italian (so belonging to mafia, with any shadow of doubt) I have special connections. And I was proved that my parcels didn't contain anthrax for Mr. Obama, I suppose.
When one becomes the norm and the meter for measurement. So I should not send to USA anymore because in 1998 one parcel was lost.
Sorry but I really don't believe in these experiences. I guess one became many...like catching a fish: it was half a kg but when I told my friends it became 5 kgs.
Even the title of this topic looks so rude and forcedly painted with racism, somehow....and it comes out it was just a single experience at the base of this "sluggish crap" voiced with a good dose of self-enjoyment. Yes, the title is a total lack of style and respect and it seems there are people who fill their life with pre-constructed prejudices. You can express the same question in thousand better ways, but why not pushing on the pedal of sensational offense? Italy is 3rd world, they don't have a conscience...we can easily form a question using not appropriate terms, nobody will feel offended. It's not USA where you can be sent to a court if you try to say such thingsin the same way. 3rd world countries do not have a self conscience and enlightment by god. It's like saying: "are niggers really lazy?" Niggers can't be offended if you call them so, because they don't have a developed self conscience.
I learnt this in the topic about Northwind and No Remorse and I feel that - yes - respect and good use of words and expression is due to everybody. Ubermenschen and Untermenschen.
And I'm having a good mail trade with Andreas of No Remorse that led me to think that we must always measure our words and our expressions even if we know inside ourselves that we hate such miserable retarded cultures of the 3rd world that can not compete with the greatness of the self-proclaimed 1st world where we fortunately live in. I learnt it on the Northwind topic, I learnt it travelling in the real 3rd world, I learnt it talking with wonderful pakistani and iranians, I learnt it through many travels to Turkey and among lot of other nice people...and I even learnt it from a recent misadventure with a guy from Peru. I decided not to offend him in public and it's another lesson learnt. And I feel sorry if one can be the meter to measure a whole country or a whole continent.
Through not only one but many and repeated experiences - good and bad - I realized that most of times I felt like I was jusy carrying a whole bag of stupid capitalistic prejudices built by our free western media propaganda.
I proved myself with 600+ delivery in the last 2 years (I sell everything from movies to music to comic books to stamps to clothing and handcrafts) that italian post is not so shit as many claim to blindly know for sure only because of a single experience or because of heared voices. And I'm happy for that. I proved myself and my customers that we went beyond a prejudice with facts. One, two, tens, dozens, hundreds of facts that told of a normal - maybe not the best but not even a sluggish crap or a total desaster postal service as pictured by few names. The same names from the same countries that always talk shit about Italy. What can we do? Nothing...just let facts spek for themselves and see if there are more "+" than "-"...
and it seems plus are more but minus are voiced louder. Voiced, reported or just heard from somebody else. That's where one becomes the norm. Expecially if we have to label somebody else.
I can start a topic titled "Is american post service so paranoid?" because the incredibly expensive american postal fees should let me think that the growing paranoia inside USA against terrorist attack would rise up costs, control, checks, inspections...that would be an evidence for my theory and a bit more seriously based. It's true that I lost dozens of parcels sent/received from USA after 02.09.2001...so I can easily spread voices that american post system is becoming ridicolously expensive because of american paranoias. But I won't do that because there's way and way to express feelings and I don't know what happens in USA. And customs seem to be not that heavenly efficient as pictured by many americans. At the same time I can even imagine that growing fees can be originated by massive employments of immigrants from 3rd world countries: so more controls on their reliability, more concerns about their honesty...but it would be so childish and squallid. Even because until now I ordered and sent from/to many american distros for much cheaper prices, with less negative propaganda against Italy and I never had any kind of screaming complains. Everything went fine on both sides and nobody doubted of it in advance. Except for that fucking september 2001 when I lost hundred of euros and I never received not even any official excuse or investigation by the american post system. Yes, I realize now that I think just like those that I want to condemn. Shame on me.
Of course I met also people built and brainwashed by muslim or communist propaganda. So propaganda is dangerous in general, expecially when we blindly stick to it and we don't even accept reality and facts. But it seems that it's easier to carry and spread prejudices instead of spoiling them and confront ourselves with facts. Italy will always be mafia everywhere, corruption, 3rd world...fortunately I live in a better world, fortunately my reality is much better than other's. I know it for sure because I was told and grown up hearing that mine is always better and cleaner than yours. And my mother told me that I must talk with my similar only and avoid those who look inferior to me.
But hearing is enough: even your personal successful experience can't deny a voice heard from somebody else. I know many niggers being successful managers, skilled businessmen and good politicians. But I heard since I was child that black people love to dance, eat people and do nothing 24/7. For me hearing is enough, won't change my opinion even if my neighbor who's from Sudan runs a computer shop. He's and he'll always be a lazy dancer nigger. Never seen him eating humans but I know for sure he does. Can't be otherwise. Thinking carefully, I am now even convinced I heard somebody saying it. He won't get offended anyway as it's a common point.
