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glockose wrote:My prediction is this will be there biggest release to date with sales in the 10k+ mark. But thats just me.
If you are right it will confirm what I’ve long suspected: that I have no idea what is going on anymore!

Now, to answer your question, I agree with what Piotr said.
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1st of all: Something like this would NEVER ever happen to a more traditional Metal obscurity like for instance "Winterkill" that was mentioned earlier, even if Mr. Cobain himself had played backgroud washboard on it, so the original question is merely hypothetical.

2ndly: I'm surprised this DWARR-reissue didn't happen sooner. A classic HM label would never take it on, so it was always up to either the "hipster" noise-rock labels (like Drag City), some stoner & NUdoom label (Rise Above perhaps) or a small-time IncrediblyStrange/Outsider-reissue label to do it.

I'm with Knell, Piotr, khiijol and the rest on this one - It's just great news that this finally happened, no matter how it is being marketed. At least Mr. Duane Warr is finally getting some well-deserved recognition for his genious and an album I've been trying to get people to listen to for almost 10 years is finally available & affordable.

About the price of the originals, the 2 LPs rarely broke the €100 mark before but I guess they might go up a bit now - though only double at best.
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DaN wrote:1st of all: Something like this would NEVER ever happen to a more traditional Metal obscurity like for instance "Winterkill" that was mentioned earlier, even if Mr. Cobain himself had played backgroud washboard on it
Don't be silly, everyone knows Tori Amos played ALL the washboards on 'Winterkill'. She just didn't get a cover credit b/c she had already split from SX by the time recording was done. After the break, one became legendary among underground metalheads, the other found international fame for playing the piano and singing about vagina... I'd say the split worked out well for all involved :)
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Well, that's actually a step down on SE's Metal-cred ladder. Obviously they were trying to piggyback on Tori's underground fame after SLAYER covering her old '83 demo original Raining Blood a few years later :roll:
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DaN wrote:Well, that's actually a step down on SE's Metal-cred ladder. Obviously they were trying to piggyback on Tori's underground fame after SLAYER covering her old '83 demo original Raining Blood a few years later :roll:
True, but give SX some credit; they kept a firm grip on their roots and didn't cater to her ragtime output
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IIRC monster records had as big of a 'hipster' following as they did true metal crowd. i dont think they pressed that many copies of their reissue of winterkill, did they?
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khiijol wrote:IIRC monster records had as big of a 'hipster' following as they did true metal crowd.
NOW that is FUNNY!!!!!!!
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how so? their reissues definitely turned on a lot of people outside of metal fandom who were previously unaware to bands like SX, manilla road, and whatever other stuff they've reissued. they did a lot of 70s hard/garage rock stuff too, which has a big crossover with non-metal crowds
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Yes, Monster Rec's hype and later reissue is probably the main reason why we're all aware and in awe of The Mighty SLAUTER XSTROYES, but the term "hipster" just doesn't enter into it - in no way - at all...
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i dont mean to suggest that the label or band were outsiders looking to cash in on metal or market it to a different audience, just that the audience for people who were buying monster records releases were not stricly metalheads, and in fact, a few people i know who are not metalheads got turned onto some of the more obscure/cult releases they did simply because of the "obscure" factor and that they were high quality releases on vinyl
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DaN wrote:Yes, Monster Rec's hype and later reissue is probably the main reason why we're all aware and in awe of The Mighty SLAUTER XSTROYES, but the term "hipster" just doesn't enter into it - in no way - at all...
Yes NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH "HIPSTERS"

Maybe you just dont understand what I was talking about when I used the term. Which is a little Odd since you are in the USA and there are TONS of them here.

Lets see how can I explain Hipsters to you.......
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i dont think theres any need to be condescending or rude here. i live in between new york and philadelphia and i'm fully aware with what a "hipster" is. in fact, i am friends with quite a few of them. many of these hipsters interests are "record collecting", and when a reissue label like monster suddenly unearths lots of previously unheard of, strange and weird releases, these record collectors will take interest in them, regardless of genre (true metal), which is where my comment came from - that true metalheads were not the only people buying up the SX reissue
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khiijol wrote:i dont mean to suggest that the label or band were outsiders looking to cash in on metal or market it to a different audience, just that the audience for people who were buying monster records releases were not stricly metalheads, and in fact, a few people i know who are not metalheads got turned onto some of the more obscure/cult releases they did simply because of the "obscure" factor and that they were high quality releases on vinyl
Dennis is here somewhere and I am sure would get a good laugh out of all this.

Monster Records Label was geared to, Hard Rock (Metal / Psych) Anything that had LOUD over the top Guitar work.

The List and then Website were set up to sell the same thing Hard Rock/Metal/Psych/AOR/ Privates for the most part. The same as everyone else back in the day.
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Post by Glockose »

I'm done.

Maybe I'm just too old and have been around way too long.

Sorry for the trouble, Have Fun

and I never said the Dwarr Reissue is/was a bad thing.
I know the folks doing it and think it's great.
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But you asked people to comment and they did. I quite enjoyed the thread I must say.
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