Dark Quarterer?

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Shadow Kingdom wrote:
BlackStele wrote:
Shadow Kingdom wrote:
What's that supposed to mean? You have absolutely ZERO facts to support such a immature comment.
Look, my comment had NOTHING to do with you, or what you were saying...I was just curious, and I had doubts for the reasons I've explained in my last post...BUT since all of this is confirmed by the band I have no reasons to doubt anymore...listen, I don't care ok? Legit or not, this is the crappiest thing for anyone to obtain...
Ok...

but as crappy as it is, it still supports the band to buy it, or if you choose to not have that, then the LP was available, or their newest re-issue of War Tears is available.....
I had many copies of the original LP since years...and I bought once this piece of crap just because of the lyrics, since the original doesn't have insert...but I threw it away...I couldn't stand it...and even though the name Unisound was on that as I can remember, and this warning: ΑΠΑΓΟΡΕΥΕΤΑΙ Η ΠΩΛΗΣΗ...I could never believe that this was an official release...anyway, everything good for the band is ok for me...
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Shadow Kingdom wrote:
ION BRITTON wrote:OK, Dark Quarterer is legit then. Since i don't want to start talking shit about the honesty of UNISOUND every time i hear its name, can someone take the responsibilty and mention ALL the the legit releases of this label?
I have no idea if the label is still even active..... and at one point I had a list of all the legal pressings, but being that the stuff seems to not be available anymore, I didn't hang on to that list. If you are going to buy a Unisound pressing... just ask around first is all I can say... post a message here, I'm sure there will be people that can dig up the info or already know.
So you agree ALL the Unisound CD's (Apollo Ra) are NOT LEGIT?

There could be some that are but they are not ALL LEGIT

Is this correct? can we agree on this?
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glockose wrote:
Shadow Kingdom wrote:
ION BRITTON wrote:OK, Dark Quarterer is legit then. Since i don't want to start talking shit about the honesty of UNISOUND every time i hear its name, can someone take the responsibilty and mention ALL the the legit releases of this label?
I have no idea if the label is still even active..... and at one point I had a list of all the legal pressings, but being that the stuff seems to not be available anymore, I didn't hang on to that list. If you are going to buy a Unisound pressing... just ask around first is all I can say... post a message here, I'm sure there will be people that can dig up the info or already know.
So you agree ALL the Unisound CD's (Apollo Ra) are NOT LEGIT?

There could be some that are but they are not ALL LEGIT

Is this correct? can we agree on this?

hahahaha, even back then you could get it from the band as a cd-r with something like a pink cover......
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hahahaha, even back then you could get it from the band as a cd-r with something like a pink cover......

Please explain.
And answer the question if you have time.


I am sorry but I am one of those people who like to follow the law not just what I feel. And when a band goes in and sings over the rights to there songs to someone for life that means for life. Not "Oh well I wrote them and it's been 10 years so I am going to do with them what I like" the real law doesn't work that way, Very sorry.

Also when a Drummer (or whoever)from a band who had nothing to do with writing the songs and maybe only even played with them live (years after the fact) says "go ahead do what ever you like vinyl/cd everything is ok with me" THIS IS NOT A LEGIT RELEASE
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glockose wrote: Also when a Drummer (or whoever)from a band who had nothing to do with writing the songs and maybe only even played with them live (years after the fact) says "go ahead do what ever you like vinyl/cd everything is ok with me" THIS IS NOT A LEGIT RELEASE
That's what i'm really trying to figure out with Unisound's releases. Did they agree through a simple e-mail by just saying "hello, this is Panos from Unisound, i like your stuff very much, can i rerelease it on my label?" "it's ok by me, i'm one of the members of the band, do whatever you like with our songs, you have my permission" or do they followed the legal procedure by signing contracts and the likes?

If we can't find which releases are legit can we at least mention the ones that are not legit?

One certainly is Apollo Ra. And i'm quite sure there are many others as well. I really hope we make things clear on this topic, if i wasn't from Greece, with what's being written here i would start to believe that all people are wrongly accusing Unisound for making bootlegs and generally being involved in the bootleg mafia of the world. I'm not making it personal, i'm just trying to figure out what's the story behind all these. I put a simple and clear question before and i want a simple and clear answer: Which releases of Unisound are legit and which aren't? Not which ones you believe or are supposed to be legit, only those which are absolutely lawful and follow every single point of the legal procedure.
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i don't know the facts of apollo ra but if they get some money i don't have anything against. money it's better for the bands than some... free copies

some of panos releases are legit for sure. like the vavel ones. in that case panos gave some great $$$ to them(and thus they never released from steel gallery). at least someone thought of the band in that case.
same case with angelo perlepes' mystery,legit for sure but the band didn't get a penny, simply 'cause they didn't have the rights of these releases.

i only know that first i must support the band and then all the others.....

hahaha, scott voight, peter's brother, is a great example of how to make some big $$$ for your band....i love this guy....
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glockose wrote:
Shadow Kingdom wrote:
ION BRITTON wrote:OK, Dark Quarterer is legit then. Since i don't want to start talking shit about the honesty of UNISOUND every time i hear its name, can someone take the responsibilty and mention ALL the the legit releases of this label?
I have no idea if the label is still even active..... and at one point I had a list of all the legal pressings, but being that the stuff seems to not be available anymore, I didn't hang on to that list. If you are going to buy a Unisound pressing... just ask around first is all I can say... post a message here, I'm sure there will be people that can dig up the info or already know.
So you agree ALL the Unisound CD's (Apollo Ra) are NOT LEGIT?

There could be some that are but they are not ALL LEGIT

Is this correct? can we agree on this?
Yes, that's correct to the best of my knowledge. There are legal ones, and illegal ones... but to my memory I think most of them are legal...
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Post by Glockose »

I think you had posted on another site about Retrospect records (Vegascds)
To me Unisound does the samething. Some Legit and some not, They just don't put them all in the publics face.

Maybe we should start another thread and really talk about this?

All I know is OPM paid to release everything Legit and I would guess we paid MORE then anyone else when it came down to it.

But that is not the topic. The topic is what is legit and what is not.
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glockose wrote:I think you had posted on another site about Retrospect records (Vegascds)
To me Unisound does the samething. Some Legit and some not, They just don't put them all in the publics face.

Maybe we should start another thread and really talk about this?

All I know is OPM paid to release everything Legit and I would guess we paid MORE then anyone else when it came down to it.

But that is not the topic. The topic is what is legit and what is not.
Yeah VEGAS CDs is a whole other animal. I don't know the whole story behind him yet, but people are telling me he MOSTLY puts out illegal pressings and on top of that has the nerve to sell CDRs and falsely advertises original pressings for big money on ebay that's either an illegal pressing or a CDR... I don't think Unisound is at that level, but it doesn't make it any better for the illegal pressings he's made.


I guess my point is that if the release is legit, we're torn between supporting the band even if they made a bad decision with their choice of label or just boycotting the label no matter what...

I've seen some labels make limited runs of things because like you said the drummer said it was ok or whatever...

Major labels..... some bands don't get paid a dime and get totally screwed... and we could go on and on about every label and every action they make... in the end I always say to try to support a band's decision. That decision has the most weight in my eyes... If a band says they didn't get paid, but they want you to support the release anyway... then should we?

I don't know if I want to start another topic about this topic... as it could get really nasty and tiresome....

OPM is the right way to run a label.... one of the best around. Top shelf releases, top shelf service. No need to question or worry about the releases made there...
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Re: Dark Quarterer?

Post by mega_lodon »

BloodOfChrist wrote:How much would you pay for an original copy of the LP (NOT the reissue)? Just wondering...
Well, anyone has idea how much is the original 'War Tears' CD (Gorgon/In Line) worth today?
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