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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:16 pm
by The Knell
The Knell wrote:Warepire wrote:The Knell wrote:are those any good?
Endless Tears Emotion 1994
Blind Fury Out of Reach 1985/1994 or 2006 have yet to get an answer
As albums or as CD editions ?
No I meant if they are OK to get for cheap...Blind Fury is the digipak reissue 2006 so Id rather get the vinyl instead
Also how is Fight (US) - Fight For Words 1993
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:33 pm
by Heathen
does this CD look like the original to you?
http://cgi.ebay.pl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 2759.l1259
Please enlarge the photo and take a look at the matrix.
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:44 pm
by Helstar
AFAIK there is no known bootleg of Survive on IRS ? I have the UOF print so I can't help a lot anyway

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:51 pm
by Heathen
There surely is a boot:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NUCLEAR-ASSAULT-Sur ... 2a0715e9b2
I just want to make sure that this is what its matrix looks like

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:55 pm
by perishinflames
Yes of course there is, I thought the IRS was the most widely spread Survive boot. I don't remember my old copy looking quite like that, but the picture is pretty bad so its hard to tell. But the old bootlegs had the yellow disc label completely covering the matrix area, so unless there are newer boots then that one's probably legit. Matrix should contain "manufactured by Sanyo"
Though there is something strange about that copy, I'd pass on it
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:02 pm
by Helstar
Oh you're right, I didn't check the 'bootleg.txt' list before ^^
If you want I have a double of Survive cd UOF print, we can trade it (depends on what you have

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:56 am
by perishinflames
Thx for the offer, but I sold my CD for $75 and replaced it with the LP for $5, so I'm content with that

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 4:09 am
by Helstar
I was talking to pan_Heathen (mostly)

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:32 am
by Heathen
perishinflames wrote:Yes of course there is, I thought the IRS was the most widely spread Survive boot. I don't remember my old copy looking quite like that, but the picture is pretty bad so its hard to tell. But the old bootlegs had the yellow disc label completely covering the matrix area, so unless there are newer boots then that one's probably legit. Matrix should contain "manufactured by Sanyo"
Though there is something strange about that copy, I'd pass on it
I have the very same "boot" and it contains "Manufactured By sanyo" (the text is the same as on the original) but the font is different than in the original I know and there is also a stripe on the matrix (like, say, in the UOF CDs). So A am wondering is this an original with a different matrix (no chance, I think) or this is a boot (99% sure).
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:36 am
by Heathen
Helstar wrote:I was talking to pan_Heathen (mostly)

Unfortunately I never go beyond 35 EUR even for my top wants, so I cant buy expensive CDs from people who know what they are worth
The downside is that sometimes, when I try to buy 40€ CD for 8€ I get a boot.
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:43 pm
by Heathen
Thats the third I.R.S. Survive version, the well known bootleg:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NUCLEAR-ASSAULT-Sur ... 3cad22f402
So either there are two bootlegs, or two originals with a different font on the matrix.
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:13 pm
by sovdat
From Rom's collection page:
NUCLEAR ASSAULT - Survive
I.R.S. Metal licensed from Combat - 1988 [IRDS-42195] US pressing - CD made in Japan (manufactured by Sanyo)
Perhaps there was a later press where CD was manufactured in USA, as with Combat CDs, and therefore you have 2 different versions?
The picture from that auctions isn't the best, but the matrix area looks kinda like this one on another Nuclear Assault CD:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NUCLEAR-ASSAULT-Out ... 56345af8aa
... but what do you need 35€ for?

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:30 pm
by Heathen
here you can see the suspicious CD and its matrix closely:
To me it looks bootleg like...
And here is a good shot of a big part of the matrix I know is original:

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:38 pm
by Helstar
The presumed bootleg has a mirrored matrix ?
In the other you can read "manufactured" in the upper left of the pic, and it's not mirrored.
Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:42 pm
by Heathen
Yes, thats another difference
