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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:53 am
by rooster
Heathen wrote:
rooster wrote:an somebody help me with this one and give me any information about this pressing? First of all, is it legit haha?
Yes it is legit, pressed by the Sonopress US branch. Not the first press probably though, as this factory started pressing CDs in 1991 AFAIK.
Thanks, Heathen :)

Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:19 am
by perishinflames
My first pressing (came in sealed long box) was made by Disc. Mfg. Inc.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:49 pm
by MetalDelight
I went through all my Roadrunner cd's to look for suspicious copies.
Found two.

First one is Flotsam's No place For Disgrace.
Matrixno. looks like original, however the innerring is not transparant but has that silver mirror colour. Is this a (legit) pressvariation or a bootleg?

Second one is Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn.
Matrix is not corresponding to the original. Is this a legit repress or bootleg?

All input appreciated.

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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:34 pm
by Warepire
Jason Becker:
IFPI code means pressed during or after 1994 (which is when they were introduced). The IFPI code is one owned by Sonopress.
So to me this is legit.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:27 pm
by MetalDelight
Thank you.

I can't find any info on a repress though.
Doesn't imply there wasn't but I would like to have things confirmed 8)

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:02 pm
by Herkus Monte
Has Marshall Law s/t CD has ever been reissued? Was it released also on vinyl back in the 80s?

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:14 pm
by Zdan
Herkus Monte wrote:Has Marshall Law s/t CD has ever been reissued? Was it released also on vinyl back in the 80s?
It was reissued with a different cover by Heavy Metal Records. I do not know the actual year of the re-release but I supose somewhere in the late 90's. Here is the musik-sammler link for that:

http://www.musik-sammler.de/media/311205

There also was a vinyl version of the album on Revolver/Heavy Metal Records.

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:43 pm
by perishinflames
MetalDelight wrote:Thank you.

I can't find any info on a repress though.
Doesn't imply there wasn't but I would like to have things confirmed 8)
Big labels simply repress CDs for many many years. No place for Disgrace was still in print until a couple years ago, same catalog number, same barcode, disc looks exactly the same except matrix. Same for things like Sanctuary - Refuge Denied which is now suddenly "rare" but a few years ago you could buy it for $10 at Walmart.com. If you go buy one of the first two Metal Church CDs brand new at Amazon right now it will look just like the ones pressed in the 80s except for the matrix.

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:05 am
by MetalDelight
perishinflames wrote:
MetalDelight wrote:Thank you.

I can't find any info on a repress though.
Doesn't imply there wasn't but I would like to have things confirmed 8)
Big labels simply repress CDs for many many years. No place for Disgrace was still in print until a couple years ago, same catalog number, same barcode, disc looks exactly the same except matrix. Same for things like Sanctuary - Refuge Denied which is now suddenly "rare" but a few years ago you could buy it for $10 at Walmart.com. If you go buy one of the first two Metal Church CDs brand new at Amazon right now it will look just like the ones pressed in the 80s except for the matrix.
Thank you.
Bare with me, still learning new things each day.

This makes sense in Jason Becker's case.
Still would like to know if (early) Roadrunner cd's have that silver innerring variation.
The matrix on the F&J cd is exactly the same as the first press.
Only innerring is not transparant.

Any thoughts on that?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:26 pm
by perishinflames
MetalDelight wrote: Still would like to know if (early) Roadrunner cd's have that silver innerring variation.
The matrix on the F&J cd is exactly the same as the first press.
Only innerring is not transparant.

Any thoughts on that?
Just something Sonopress did for a certain time. A lot of Roadrunner discs have these variations. Look for example at Carnivore Price Killers CDs, some have silver ring some do not but the matrix is identical (probably same glass stamper used even) but for a time Sonopress used a solid silver center ring. It is a common thing and usually nothing to worry about.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:16 pm
by MetalDelight
Thank you, just the answer I was looking for :-)

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:41 pm
by MetalDelight
Equinox- Labyrinth.

How can I distinguish the bootleg from the original pressing?

Anyone?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:20 pm
by Helstar
I think that's quite hard to understand...

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:45 pm
by MetalDelight
Ok, will post a pic soon.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:24 pm
by MetalDelight
Here's a pic of the matrix on my Equinox-Labyrinth copy.
This copy comes from a second hand shop and I guess it has been sitting there for years. However would still like to have confirmation.

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