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I never got into the early stuff of the Swiss MESSIAH, demos up to "Extreme Cold Weather". I bought "Hymn To Abramelin" twice (with some years in between), and even the second time It didn't do anything with me. I like "Psychomorphia" and "Choir Of Horrors" though.

Lama wrote:I never got into the early stuff of the Swiss MESSIAH, demos up to "Extreme Cold Weather". I bought "Hymn To Abramelin" twice (with some years in between), and even the second time It didn't do anything with me. I like "Psychomorphia" and "Choir Of Horrors" though.

"If it's too loud, you're too..."

To me it is the complete contrary.
I don't care about everything after "Extreme cold weather", because the first 2 records are just outstanding in the European mid-80s metal scene.

Nasty Uwe wrote:

Lama wrote:I never got into the early stuff of the Swiss MESSIAH, demos up to "Extreme Cold Weather". I bought "Hymn To Abramelin" twice (with some years in between), and even the second time It didn't do anything with me. I like "Psychomorphia" and "Choir Of Horrors" though.

"If it's too loud, you're too..."

To me it is the complete contrary.
I don't care about everything after "Extreme cold weather", because the first 2 records are just outstanding in the European mid-80s metal scene.

Yes, for that time they were something special, I'm not denying that. But somehow I just can't enjoy the songs...

And I also must say that the music they played on their later albums was way more 'normal' and 'accessible', but I like the songs more.

Queensryche. Except the first ep.

First two Bathory's - they are pure junk to my years. I love everything afterward though.

I guess you don't like Venom Stormspell?

Early Messiah? Really?

stormspell wrote:First two Bathory's - they are pure junk to my years. I love everything afterward though.

That's not common!

reindeerattack666 wrote: Battleroar - vocals are too operatic. He sings like a eunuch.

Manowar -- Musically, these guys aren't anything impressive, and are more of a parody of epic metal than epic metal proper.

I'm finding myself eating my words on these two bands. I wasn't listening to the right albums. "Into Glory Ride" is awesome. The vocals on Battleroar's "Age of Chaos" bothered me, but "To Death and Beyond" is amazing and now "Age of Chaos" is growing on me.

reindeerattack666 wrote:

reindeerattack666 wrote: Battleroar - vocals are too operatic. He sings like a eunuch.

Manowar -- Musically, these guys aren't anything impressive, and are more of a parody of epic metal than epic metal proper.

I'm finding myself eating my words on these two bands. I wasn't listening to the right albums. "Into Glory Ride" is awesome. The vocals on Battleroar's "Age of Chaos" bothered me, but "To Death and Beyond" is amazing and now "Age of Chaos" is growing on me.

prejudging is bad,everyone knows it,now get your Hail to England fix

Argh MANOWAR are just gods of course hehe

Into Glory Ride, Hail To England, Sign of The Hammer => all 20/20

The debut album and Kings of Metal are very cool too.

MEXDefenderOfSteel wrote:

reindeerattack666 wrote:

reindeerattack666 wrote: Battleroar - vocals are too operatic. He sings like a eunuch.

Manowar -- Musically, these guys aren't anything impressive, and are more of a parody of epic metal than epic metal proper.

I'm finding myself eating my words on these two bands. I wasn't listening to the right albums. "Into Glory Ride" is awesome. The vocals on Battleroar's "Age of Chaos" bothered me, but "To Death and Beyond" is amazing and now "Age of Chaos" is growing on me.

prejudging is bad,everyone knows it,now get your Hail to England fix

I've judged bands after hearing the "wrong" records a lot of times, but admitting to yourself that you've been wrong is a great quality to have reindeerattack666.

Hm, about that user name: have you ever been around these parts? We have traffic signs warning of reindeer in the road several places outside town

J.K. wrote:Argh MANOWAR are just gods of course hehe

Into Glory Ride, Hail To England, Sign of The Hammer => all 20/20

The debut album and Kings of Metal are very cool too.

Funnily enough you've listed exactly the five Mano-albums i have in my collection, and in my order of preference too!
The only problem i have with "Kings Of Metal" is the song "Carry On", i always hated that cheesey singalonga Eurovision sounding piece of shit.
I've been giving the new re-recorded version of the "Battle Hymns" album a good listen and it sounds good but a little redundant.
It's not like they've radically rearranged the songs or anything, just recorded with modern technology and added little keyboard washes here and there.
A puzzling move.
However i fail to see why you can't get down with Down, to me they're one of the few bands out there just now who are capable of blending the older '70's Heavy Metal style with modern recording techniques whilst retaining their identity.
They also consistently come up with truly memorable riffs and haunting/unusual melodies.
"II" is my personal favourite from their output, (although i'm probably in the minority there), just a really inspired and varied album that reveals more with every listen.
Give them another try and let "the power of the riff compell you".

"Carry On" is on "Fighting The World" Not their brightest moment indeed...

Phil Anselmo can behave as a moron sometimes, yes, but DOWN as a band is great. Riffs, heaviness, songs, vocals...it's all there.

I'm sure not everybody loves them and I don't hate them (I have the first album) but Blessed Death have always bored me

borrel wrote:I'm sure not everybody loves them and I don't hate them (I have the first album) but Blessed Death have always bored me

Don't like 'em either. Annoying vocals also.