Avenger wrote:Why are the fucking greeks doing this?
I just came across this seller on Ebay.
Seller: vilainshadows
Here's their justification for selling bootlegs...
Avenger you will love this!
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
By taking part in this auction, you agree to comply with the following rules. This means that you must not bid at all unless you agree with something of the below:
6. CD & LP EDITIONS (first pressings, later pressings, private editions and bootlegs).
Most persons buying CD’s and LP’s on EBAY are collectors and they want to feel secure that they are not buying any fake or second rate items. So, it is important to clarify some terms. By bidding at one of my auctions you agree with the following:
a. A First Pressing of an album is the VERY FIRST edition that the album was issued by. If an album was released for the very first time on LP at a time when no CD’s were around, all later CD (or LP) pressings are NOT first press but later pressings and can imply various licensings, various different editions etc. Buyers often misunderstand this term, by thinking that a first press is the first run of copies that the factory made of a specific format of an item. This is totally wrong, because NO collector or BUYER in the world can ever be sure if an original item he owns is a first press or second press or third press etc. This all depends on the factory and the label that originally issued the album and this is often a well kept secret. So, let’s all agree that a first pressing of an album is the first edition it came by for the first time it was originally released in the exact condition it was manufactured.
b. A Private Edition of an album, is a certain edition an album was manufactured by, but its origin or manufacturer is usually unknown. Sometimes private editions are related to bootlegs but this is not true. Bootlegs are ALWAYS private editions but private editions are NOT ALWAYS bootlegs. A Privately released album can be a self-financed effort of a band, or a small limited edition release of a small record label or even an indepedent pressing of unknown origin.
c. Bootlegs are mostly private editions featuring unreleased, unauthorized demo, live or studio recordings by big or smaller bands, that the bands have not authorized.
d. Replicas are CD or LP editions that look like a first press edition of an item but they bear certain variations compared to the original, that only dedicated collectors can tell.
7. SILVER SIDE FACTORY MADE DISCS (for CD bidders)
I sell only Silver Side Factory made discs and NO CDR’s! All factory pressings come with one silver side that only factory made CD’s have. All CDR’s in the world, when exposed over a light, have a color variation (even the ones that look like silver). Others are usually, light pink, blue and other colors of course. But EVERY CD manufactured by a factory is ALWAYS silver at one side.
Avenger wrote:Why are the fucking greeks doing this?
I just came across this seller on Ebay.
Seller: vilainshadows
Here's their justification for selling bootlegs...
Avenger you will love this!
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
By taking part in this auction, you agree to comply with the following rules. This means that you must not bid at all unless you agree with something of the below:
6. CD & LP EDITIONS (first pressings, later pressings, private editions and bootlegs).
Most persons buying CD’s and LP’s on EBAY are collectors and they want to feel secure that they are not buying any fake or second rate items. So, it is important to clarify some terms. By bidding at one of my auctions you agree with the following:
a. A First Pressing of an album is the VERY FIRST edition that the album was issued by. If an album was released for the very first time on LP at a time when no CD’s were around, all later CD (or LP) pressings are NOT first press but later pressings and can imply various licensings, various different editions etc. Buyers often misunderstand this term, by thinking that a first press is the first run of copies that the factory made of a specific format of an item. This is totally wrong, because NO collector or BUYER in the world can ever be sure if an original item he owns is a first press or second press or third press etc. This all depends on the factory and the label that originally issued the album and this is often a well kept secret. So, let’s all agree that a first pressing of an album is the first edition it came by for the first time it was originally released in the exact condition it was manufactured.
b. A Private Edition of an album, is a certain edition an album was manufactured by, but its origin or manufacturer is usually unknown. Sometimes private editions are related to bootlegs but this is not true. Bootlegs are ALWAYS private editions but private editions are NOT ALWAYS bootlegs. A Privately released album can be a self-financed effort of a band, or a small limited edition release of a small record label or even an indepedent pressing of unknown origin.
c. Bootlegs are mostly private editions featuring unreleased, unauthorized demo, live or studio recordings by big or smaller bands, that the bands have not authorized.
d. Replicas are CD or LP editions that look like a first press edition of an item but they bear certain variations compared to the original, that only dedicated collectors can tell.
7. SILVER SIDE FACTORY MADE DISCS (for CD bidders)
I sell only Silver Side Factory made discs and NO CDR’s! All factory pressings come with one silver side that only factory made CD’s have. All CDR’s in the world, when exposed over a light, have a color variation (even the ones that look like silver). Others are usually, light pink, blue and other colors of course. But EVERY CD manufactured by a factory is ALWAYS silver at one side.
PFFFFFF....TONS of bullshit! Unbelievable...
Good against Evil, Evil sure to win
"It really didn't matter if they liked it or not, i was going to give it to them straight down their throats" -John Stewart
Avenger wrote:Why are the fucking greeks doing this?
I just came across this seller on Ebay.
Seller: vilainshadows
Here's their justification for selling bootlegs...
Avenger you will love this!
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
By taking part in this auction, you agree to comply with the following rules. This means that you must not bid at all unless you agree with something of the below:
6. CD & LP EDITIONS (first pressings, later pressings, private editions and bootlegs).
Most persons buying CD’s and LP’s on EBAY are collectors and they want to feel secure that they are not buying any fake or second rate items. So, it is important to clarify some terms. By bidding at one of my auctions you agree with the following:
a. A First Pressing of an album is the VERY FIRST edition that the album was issued by. If an album was released for the very first time on LP at a time when no CD’s were around, all later CD (or LP) pressings are NOT first press but later pressings and can imply various licensings, various different editions etc. Buyers often misunderstand this term, by thinking that a first press is the first run of copies that the factory made of a specific format of an item. This is totally wrong, because NO collector or BUYER in the world can ever be sure if an original item he owns is a first press or second press or third press etc. This all depends on the factory and the label that originally issued the album and this is often a well kept secret. So, let’s all agree that a first pressing of an album is the first edition it came by for the first time it was originally released in the exact condition it was manufactured.
b. A Private Edition of an album, is a certain edition an album was manufactured by, but its origin or manufacturer is usually unknown. Sometimes private editions are related to bootlegs but this is not true. Bootlegs are ALWAYS private editions but private editions are NOT ALWAYS bootlegs. A Privately released album can be a self-financed effort of a band, or a small limited edition release of a small record label or even an indepedent pressing of unknown origin.
c. Bootlegs are mostly private editions featuring unreleased, unauthorized demo, live or studio recordings by big or smaller bands, that the bands have not authorized.
d. Replicas are CD or LP editions that look like a first press edition of an item but they bear certain variations compared to the original, that only dedicated collectors can tell.
7. SILVER SIDE FACTORY MADE DISCS (for CD bidders)
I sell only Silver Side Factory made discs and NO CDR’s! All factory pressings come with one silver side that only factory made CD’s have. All CDR’s in the world, when exposed over a light, have a color variation (even the ones that look like silver). Others are usually, light pink, blue and other colors of course. But EVERY CD manufactured by a factory is ALWAYS silver at one side.
This guy is a piece of shit.
He's really the one in his list of garbage that "misunderstands" the terms.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
Yeah, those Speed Metal attack series boots are quite famous ... 2nd Mandator was also "released" under it. The guy who's selling it was the winner of that $350 original earlier this year, by the way
sovdat wrote:Yeah, those Speed Metal attack series boots are quite famous ... 2nd Mandator was also "released" under it. The guy who's selling it was the winner of that $350 original earlier this year, by the way
Were those Necronomicon CD's that you bought off of him legit?
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
If only i could see the spine or the second cover i could tell immediately if it's another "hot metal" release (no CDR - factory made CD). Most likely it is one of them.
Good against Evil, Evil sure to win
"It really didn't matter if they liked it or not, i was going to give it to them straight down their throats" -John Stewart
Please don't buy anything from this guy if you can help it. He is not overly realiable. He used to sell on NETSOUNDS under aa few different names and the amount of time I have spent in the past chasing him up for orders and/or missing items is unbelievable!! Not the cheapest either!
Who is this guy kidding? Thats a boot - "Custom Killing" never got a legal release as far as I know. And he wants 60 dollars for it? Bootleg dealers were selling those for like 15-20 bucks a few years ago.
BEWARE THE HIGH VAULTAGE RECORDS CD CATELOG FROM 1997 HAS RECENTLY BEEN BOOTLEGGED WITH IDENTICAL MATRIX NUMBERS ON THE CD'S TO THE ORIGINAL DISCS. THE WAY TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE ORIGINALS IS BY THE DIFFERENT SIZE/FONT OF THE MATRIX NUMBER AND THE FACT THAT THESE ARE NOT FACTORY PROFESSIONAL PRESSED CD'S AND APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN DONE CHEAPLY, THEREFORE HAVING A SLIGHTLY BLURRED PRINTING EFFECT ON THE DISC TOP/INSERTS.
THERE IS A PERSON CURRENTLY SELLING THESE ON EBAY UNDER THE ACCOUNT: dd_records.
FULL ADDRESS OF THIS BOOTLEGGER IS:
ALEX SKULEVICH
8550 WEST DESERT INN
SUITE 102-129
LAS VEGAS, NV 89117
U.S.A.
THIS BOOTLEGGER IS SUSPECTED TO HAVE TIES WITH "VEGAS CD'S" / "RETROSPECT_AT_ROCKLAHOMA_2008" / WELL KNOWN BOOTLEGGER FROM LAS VEGAS.
bigfootkit wrote:"Your Steel Is Not True"
stormspell wrote:"I hate all my releases. I only listen to Korn and Limp Bizkit, don't you know..."
Avenger wrote:
FULL ADDRESS OF THIS BOOTLEGGER IS:
ALEX SKULEVICH
8550 WEST DESERT INN
SUITE 102-129
LAS VEGAS, NV 89117
U.S.A.
are you sure this would be his correct address? I doubt it?
Sounds like a bullshit address & is really a hotel or something??
Ebay still like him a lot tho'...
Avenger wrote:BEWARE THE HIGH VAULTAGE RECORDS CD CATELOG FROM 1997 HAS RECENTLY BEEN BOOTLEGGED WITH IDENTICAL MATRIX NUMBERS ON THE CD'S TO THE ORIGINAL DISCS. THE WAY TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE ORIGINALS IS BY THE DIFFERENT SIZE/FONT OF THE MATRIX NUMBER AND THE FACT THAT THESE ARE NOT FACTORY PROFESSIONAL PRESSED CD'S AND APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN DONE CHEAPLY, THEREFORE HAVING A SLIGHTLY BLURRED PRINTING EFFECT ON THE DISC TOP/INSERTS.
THERE IS A PERSON CURRENTLY SELLING THESE ON EBAY UNDER THE ACCOUNT: dd_records.
FULL ADDRESS OF THIS BOOTLEGGER IS:
ALEX SKULEVICH
8550 WEST DESERT INN
SUITE 102-129
LAS VEGAS, NV 89117
U.S.A.
THIS BOOTLEGGER IS SUSPECTED TO HAVE TIES WITH "VEGAS CD'S" / "RETROSPECT_AT_ROCKLAHOMA_2008" / WELL KNOWN BOOTLEGGER FROM LAS VEGAS.
How come they have matrix numbers, yet are not factory pressed? You cannot put matrix numbers on CDr, unless printed as part of the artwork, which would be highly hilarious imo...
