Recent Metal Finds (2013)

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:59 am

Avenger wrote:
Heathen wrote:Got Havoc - The Grip for 40€ today. Noone wanted it here:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/321058757970?nma ... _cvip=true
so I contacted the seller and got it cheaper. Another proof that this is not a 150+ or even a 80+ $ CD.
Not everyone bought everything they have in todays market.

How does your remark relate to what I posted?

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:28 am

Heathen wrote:
Avenger wrote:
Heathen wrote:Got Havoc - The Grip for 40€ today. Noone wanted it here:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/321058757970?nma ... _cvip=true
so I contacted the seller and got it cheaper. Another proof that this is not a 150+ or even a 80+ $ CD.
Not everyone bought everything they have in todays market.
How does your remark relate to what I posted?

I thought it was pretty straight forward... The CD used to be valued higher then what I have seen it go for recently.

By the way, I still don't think you are 100% correct since it seems you only discuss auctions that support your claim.

Here is one that ended just a couple months ago:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Havoc-The-Grip-C ... 1188wt_993

thrashidolatry · Post by **thrashidolatry** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:38 am

Avenger wrote:
Heathen wrote:
Avenger wrote:
Not everyone bought everything they have in todays market.
How does your remark relate to what I posted?
I thought it was pretty straight forward... The CD used to be valued higher then what I have seen it go for recently.

By the way, I still don't think you are 100% correct since it seems you only discuss auctions that support your claim.

Here is one that ended just a couple months ago:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Havoc-The-Grip-C ... 1188wt_993

Auctions from shorthander77 always end up higher then usual, think of Asphyxia ending for 250$.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:59 am

thrashidolatry wrote:
Avenger wrote:
Heathen wrote:
How does your remark relate to what I posted?
I thought it was pretty straight forward... The CD used to be valued higher then what I have seen it go for recently.

By the way, I still don't think you are 100% correct since it seems you only discuss auctions that support your claim.

Here is one that ended just a couple months ago:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Havoc-The-Grip-C ... 1188wt_993
Auctions from shorthander77 always end up higher then usual, think of Asphyxia ending for 250$.

That was just an example...

Define "usual" when referencing ebay? pricekillers001, shorthander77, kreator72, apoisontree, drgoon_japan, empty_air, gunmann22, gojira_666, etc. etc. all sell stuff that ends at the "high" end of the market on a consistent basis but at the same time you know you are purchasing a quality item or at least their grading standards are accurate and you aren't taking the risk of buying something described as "mint" and then the biggest piece of shit arrives at your door.

Is the "usual price" the handful of auctions listed by random guys that end low because no one saw them or the high end auctions that get more exposure because the sellers are better established?

For example, I have bought 100's of items from Kim since he started selling on ebay for both high and low prices. The parcels are shipped quickly, are well packaged and graded accordingly. 99% of the time I am satisfied with what I buy and the couple of times that I wasn't a quick and easy solution was always available. Some times paying a few extra bucks for the peace of mind is worth it.

This "usual price" in my opinion is somewhere in the middle.

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:29 am

Avenger wrote:The CD used to be valued higher then what I have seen it go for recently.

By the way, I still don't think you are 100% correct since it seems you only discuss auctions that support your claim.

Here is one that ended just a couple months ago:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Havoc-The-Grip-C ... 1188wt_993

I have already mentioned this listing - it is from the same bunch of auctions that saw Asphyxia sell for 250$. If The Grip is worth 120$ then Asphyxia is worth 250$. And we both know its not. that 120$ auction is an insane occurence, an exception from the rule.

What I don't understand is why instead of just admitting you exaggerated the valuation of Havoc, you try to take away my credibility by implying that I bought all my stuff in the last year or two which is a suggestion that I listen to metal for a year or two.

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:07 pm

Heathen wrote:
Avenger wrote:The CD used to be valued higher then what I have seen it go for recently.

By the way, I still don't think you are 100% correct since it seems you only discuss auctions that support your claim.

Here is one that ended just a couple months ago:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Havoc-The-Grip-C ... 1188wt_993
I have already mentioned this listing - it is from the same bunch of auctions that saw Asphyxia sell for 250$. If The Grip is worth 120$ then Asphyxia is worth 250$. And we both know its not. that 120$ auction is an insane occurence, an exception from the rule.

What I don't understand is why instead of just admitting you exaggerated the valuation of Havoc, you try to take away my credibility by implying that I bought all my stuff in the last year or two which is a suggestion that I listen to metal for a year or two.

Quit playing the victim. You know you were prompting a reaction from me when posting the following:

Heathen wrote:Another proof that this is not a 150+ or even a 80+ $ CD.

You are making too many assumptions. Anything that I did not type, I did not imply. We are also not talking about Asphyxia here so why that is being brought up is a mystery to me... I have citied past auctions that have brought just as much if not more money for the same CD but like I said they happened in the PAST so the links have long been removed.

I’m simply showing you that your claim is just as inaccurate as mine was and that the current price is really what two people are willing to agree upon rather then a set standard that has become lower on average then in the past.

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:08 pm

By chance I came across this post (from 2008!) yesterday...

The Knell wrote:Go for Sonowax, this guy is really reliable and also has the [Outbreak "Metal reich"] demos for ultra cheap

...and right after seeing it I searched for the seller and yeah! he still got one copy for sale ... 6€ + postage!

This to me is quite insane since noone seemed to care about or recognized it anyway.
I only can hope that the german customs authorities won't make any troubles due to the small svatiska on the cover.

sagrotan · Post by **sagrotan** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:21 pm

awesome, bought the Outbreak LP and both demos there too (guess in 2008 haha), wouldn't have thought he'd still had copies left!

package made it safe through customs (unopened, ha) complete with the not so small swastika on the poster and all

Prowler · Post by **Prowler** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:25 pm

Eh, customs don't really control the records or inserts. They just wanna see that the record that's inside the package is the one that appears on the paypal bill and that the price wasn't not higher than 22 $.

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:48 pm

Prowler wrote:Eh, customs don't really control the records or inserts. They just wanna see that the record that's inside the package is the one that appears on the paypal bill and that the price wasn't not higher than 22 $.

Okay. But i can imagine that a record like Holocausto "Campo..." could cause some trouble on the buyer (here in germany) if opened by the customs (due to the artwork).

Dirty Rocker · Post by **Dirty Rocker** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:55 pm

Manilla Road - Crystal Logic LP (still sealed, roadster) NOT still sealed anymore.

Avenger - Killer Elite LP test pressing
Lion's Share - Ghost Town Queen 7''
Heavy Load - Take me Away 7''

Prowler · Post by **Prowler** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:36 am

Nasty Uwe wrote:
Prowler wrote:Eh, customs don't really control the records or inserts. They just wanna see that the record that's inside the package is the one that appears on the paypal bill and that the price wasn't not higher than 22 $.
Okay. But i can imagine that a record like Holocausto "Campo..." could cause some trouble on the buyer (here in germany) if opened by the customs (due to the artwork).

Not due to the artwork (you can always say "It's anti-concentration camps" etc ...) but the band pic won't help you here! lol
I'm there each month twice or triple and they never pulled out the record and turned the sleeve ... mostly the bill already did it. Go in the early morning right when they opened because there's noone motivated enough to work. They're all still drinking coffee ... haha

Prowler · Post by **Prowler** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:31 pm

Speedeceiver · Post by **Speedeceiver** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:56 am

Nasty Uwe wrote:
Speedeceiver wrote:The white label is a test press of my bands EP

What Scorpions single is this (Klaus Meine: best vocalist evah )?
What's your band's name (any links to yt, fb or ms?)?

It is THE ZOO single.
Bands name is Gatekrashor, heres our FB: https://www.facebook.com/gatekrashor

Links to band camp are there.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:10 am

Virtue-We Stand To Fight CD (pre ordered already, another expensive item that gets easier to get for my pockets! and I still think 18.96EUR for a CD is expensive tho...)

Judas Priest-Rocka Rolla LP