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Right! Being a musician is not about pleasing masses. Unless one's disability to do anything else.

Well, the thing is that Kruiz were NOT a Metal band from the start. They just made some Metal recordings, but that was just an experiment, so to say. They have actually stayed true to their roots he he.

Kruiz was just an example, there's so many russian bands that did this 'heavy metal from 1985 to 1987, then back to whatever else!'

I am not saying it's not selling out, I am proposing a scenario on why it happened.

The problem with your theory is that Kruiz weren't constantly going the whole time--their genre switches were based on band breakups, personnel changes, and various ex-members juggling the name around, I guess a bit like the Saxon thing. The original lineup broke up, and Mr. Гаина chose not to be too creative with bandnames when pursued his metallic urges with new guys. And when he stopped eventually some of the older members picked up the name again.

Haha, why even bother to argue whether KRUIZ or a thousand other Russian bands were sell-outs or not. These bands and their fans for that sake probably had other things to care about than "keeping it true". Besides, I do not know of ANY band discussed on the whole forum who can't be accused of selling out in any point of their carreer.

Metalipeiklo wrote:Besides, I do not know of ANY band discussed on the whole forum who can't be accused of selling out in any point of their carreer.

Naaah, i don't think so. Let me see...

LIEGE LORD
SAVAGE GRACE
SLAUTER XSTROYES
HEIR APPARENT
SORTILEGE
BROCAS HELM

these few just from off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more...

Yes, well, I guessed it would turn out this way, with lists of bands that have always stayed true. Haha. Nevermind my very generalizing statement above.

ION BRITTON wrote:

Metalipeiklo wrote:Besides, I do not know of ANY band discussed on the whole forum who can't be accused of selling out in any point of their carreer.

Naaah, i don't think so. Let me see...

LIEGE LORD
SAVAGE GRACE
SLAUTER XSTROYES
HEIR APPARENT
SORTILEGE
BROCAS HELM

these few just from off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more...

You beat me to it man.

Metalipeiklo wrote:Haha, why even bother to argue whether KRUIZ or a thousand other Russian bands were sell-outs or not. These bands and their fans for that sake probably had other things to care about than "keeping it true". Besides, I do not know of ANY band discussed on the whole forum who can't be accused of selling out in any point of their carreer.

I bother not because I get off in pointing the finger, of SCORRRRNNNN at them, but because I find it very interesting to look at the circumstances that create these situations, even in the USSR. Thanks for the info no KRUIZ, though! I don't mean any disrespect to the members of them or any other once-HM band.

Does someone have some info about a band named DIALOG ?

Well, Dialog were not Metal but some Pop/Synth stuff. I like them a lot though. The third LP features a great Metal track actually. I have it for upload if you want.

Destrozer wrote:Well, Dialog were not Metal but some Pop/Synth stuff. I like them a lot though. The third LP features a great Metal track actually. I have it for upload if you want.

It would be great ! Thanks a lot

Does anyone have any extra info on the band Novy Zavet? I got their album "Halleluja" from 1991 last week and on the first hearing (right now) some of the songs are actually really good. The LP is on Melodia.

great_knuthulhu wrote:Does anyone have any extra info on the band Novy Zavet? I got their album "Halleluja" from 1991 last week and on the first hearing (right now) some of the songs are actually really good. The LP is on Melodia.

You lucky bastard. Their debut is a killer album. I want to get it myself but haven't seen it for sale anywhere.

Black Axe wrote:

great_knuthulhu wrote:Does anyone have any extra info on the band Novy Zavet? I got their album "Halleluja" from 1991 last week and on the first hearing (right now) some of the songs are actually really good. The LP is on Melodia.

You lucky bastard. Their debut is a killer album. I want to get it myself but haven't seen it for sale anywhere.

Yeah? I didn't have clue how rare it was. I just saw it for sale in great shape. Best looking Melodia album I ever saw from back then. A guy had some Russian albums and I bought it just to go with the Magnet - Dies Irae LP. Got some Vysotsky as well, so it was a good day. Paid no more than 200NOK for the lot.