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What's with the "jewish" slurs MOK?
No need or place for that here.
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MassOfKthulu wrote:i didnt understand your post,i speak neither russian nor jewish,sorry
I think he took offense to your post because he collects MP3's.

bigfootkit wrote:What's with the "jewish" slurs MOK?
No need or place for that here.
I don't think Mass' comments were meant to be racist, but rather used in a stereotypical manner for labeling the cheap, rip-off artists at thrashmagaydon.

Well-deserved label if you ask me.
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Avenger wrote:
MassOfKthulu wrote:i didnt understand your post,i speak neither russian nor jewish,sorry
I think he took offense to your post because he collects MP3's.

bigfootkit wrote:What's with the "jewish" slurs MOK?
No need or place for that here.
I don't think Mass' comments were meant to be racist, but rather used in a stereotypical manner for labeling the cheap, rip-off artists at thrashmagaydon.

Well-deserved label if you ask me.
I understood what he meant, but i think he could have put it in different terms. Using Jew as a by-word for "cheap, rip-off artists" is racist, something i had hoped not to see here.
By all means have a thread on why Jewish theology is utter nonsense in the "life beyond Metal" section, i'm no fan of religion, i'd be glad to join in, but to me the casual denigration of Jews or any other ethnic group is unacceptable.
In fact, in light of the amount of influential Jews in Heavy Metal and Hard Rock, it's not only unacceptable, it's also un-Metal.
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MassOfKthulu wrote:jewmageddon
This isn't the NWN! forum, you know.
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have you never heard the term 'jew out of my comeuppance?' tat tat.it's a coined expression that means rip off,and as far as i know it's long derived of any racial attributes.i didnt expect this much political correctness in the Pope's tea party,let alone a metal forum.
let's make amends everyone,share some scones and end this on a happy note:
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I really don't understand why so much hate on that forum you're all talking about...
There's almost 50 members here that are also members there (even some moderators here are Mag members )...
As far as i know i never saw posted there anything against Corroseum...
And if i see it there or in any other place i would ask also why hate against Corroseum...(same way i did here)...
No, i don't collect ONLY mp3...
I already told you that Avenger some months ago. And i won't spend time giving examples i wish to be discreet...
I reafirm it: Chtulu isn't the original uploader of this...if needed i tell other Corroseum member who have it for years.
And about strappado, everyone knows he has that megalomaniac dream of having posted in his blog all demos,lps and other things Metal related...in that process he will leach any other blog or forum content. And he and/or his friends are here too ! From where lots of stuff was already taken (Metalis, Hell and now LM ).
I really hope someone can explain me what's wrong with Mageddon forum...
There's cool people there as much as here, imo.
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If you wish to continue discussion on T-M click here. It's an old topic and I think T-M has changed its policy a few times since then, so whatever you read there concerns the policy T-M had by that time.

EDIT: Last posts merged with the old topic.
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MassOfKthulu wrote:as far as i know it's long derived of any racial attributes.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
i didnt expect this much political correctness in the Pope's tea party,let alone a metal forum.
A PC Pope who respects all social groups & minorities including gay people? Er...
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Guys, keep it civil coz it will be a shame if we have to lock a LEGIONED MARCHER topic for off-topic political discussion.
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ION BRITTON wrote:Guys, keep it civil coz it will be a shame if we have to lock a LEGIONED MARCHER topic for off-topic political discussion.
Of course. I've yet to blow my top on this forum, thankfully, so I'm not about to do so now. Thanks for the sanity.
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Ernest Thesiger wrote:
ION BRITTON wrote:Guys, keep it civil coz it will be a shame if we have to lock a LEGIONED MARCHER topic for off-topic political discussion.
Of course. I've yet to blow my top on this forum, thankfully, so I'm not about to do so now. Thanks for the sanity.
Frankly, i thought everyone had done a remarkable job keeping it civil.
Ion, you make a fair point that we should be talking about music here and not "politics", but i felt that the issue had to be addressed, as to my mind, silence serves only to give the attitudes expressed earlier an air of acceptance or acceptability.
I think everyone concerned has aired their opinions on the matter and hopefully we can all move on now and return to expressing our musical opinions instead.
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I'm not saying you did that and honestly you've never done it up until now, it's just that these discussions usually don't end in a civil way, I'm simply raising a 'warning' flag to prevent it from happening.
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bigfootkit wrote: Frankly, i thought everyone had done a remarkable job keeping it civil.
Ion, you make a fair point that we should be talking about music here and not "politics", but i felt that the issue had to be addressed, as to my mind, silence serves only to give the attitudes expressed earlier an air of acceptance or acceptability.
I think everyone concerned has aired their opinions on the matter and hopefully we can all move on now and return to expressing our musical opinions instead.
What I was implying is how a topic about one of the most obscure US metal demos turned into a non musical political discussion. If a topic about LEGIONED MARCHER isn't for the love of music then I don't know what is. It's a shame dammit.

However if you feel is right to voice your opinion whenever such comments appear, it's fine by me. I understand it and to a degree I share the same view. I am not completely sure though how to interpret Kyr's comment and if it should be considered deeply and totally racist and hateful. What I think though is that it's quite unfair to condemn all jewish people because of jewish government practices to which many people all over the world and probably here too are opposed.

I also have to say this since the issue of remaining silent on such cases has come up, a thing that frustrates me more than usual since I happen to be Greek myself, but it should apply to other cases as well, you'll understand to which shortly.
First question, have you counted how many times the issue of Greek bootleggers has been brought to discussion since the beginning of the forum? Probably quite a lot, personally I've lost count. Second and most important question, do you remember how many times people other than Greeks broke their silence while trying to say that not ALL Greeks are like those fuckers on ebay and that there are actually decent and honest people residing in this country as well? Honestly, I'm trying hard to remember someone else besides myself and a couple of other Greek fellas who tried to say that we are not all scams. MAybe someone did, but it's difficult to remember. Why that didn't become the issue that this topic has become? But you know, sometimes I say to myself 'Fuck it and let it go, you know who and what you are and you don't have to prove anything to anyone coz that's all bullshit' and Im trying not to pay much attention to such comments although they still insult. Because I'm here for the music and to discuss about my biggest passion in life, not to discuss politics although I'm interested in it too and not in small degree either.
I'm not adressing this to you personally bigfoot, my point is and I'm only saying that if someone decides not to remain silent on such cases and not accept whatever is written, to my eyes it'd be fair to do it on each and every case and not only when the words 'Jews' or 'Nazi' appear. And to this maybe I have to agree to a certain degree with Kyr. It has become kinda politically correct - and I've seen that happening in real life as well - to stand up and defend Jews whenever they are being attacked or insulted or bash whoever tries to defend the Nazis, but on the other hand it doesn't matter that much if you don't do the same when other people or less know minorities are being insulted, as if they don't worth the same or as if the antiracist politics concern only the 'hot' topics (jews, nazis, blacks etc) or as if you can't be considered as a racist who approves all that by remaining silent on those case or even by not giving a shit about it. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say, I'm sorry in case it is not understood, my english unfortunately is far from perfect.
Those are my two cents and I am stopping discussing this issue in this thread since it's something that could go on forever and it's off-topic as well, however if you wish to continue it please try to find an appropriate title and open a new thread in Land of Mystery.
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Wow, this is the second US metal demo in only a couple weeks that has simply blown me away! Thank so much for sharing.

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Keir wrote:Wow, this is the second US metal demo in only a couple weeks that has simply blown me away! Thank so much for sharing.

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Yes,both songs are fabulous!There's always a genaral social-political background in music and should be taken more seriously in mind by conscious listeners,unless you dance to it,it's not just and plain entertainment!
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