Slayer-Reign in Blood is ...

MetalizeR · Post by **MetalizeR** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:45 am

not as good as Show No Mercy but still a classic...

Ernest Thesiger · Post by **Ernest Thesiger** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:47 am

DMR wrote:Anyone who thinks Reign in Blood is the best metal album of all time must be on crack.

Steady on! RiB blew my head open when I was a teen, & still knocks my block off today. The only weak point on it for me is "Epidemic". Show No Mercy is still enjoyable, but to claim it as their best album is just backwards-looking. "Crionics" & "Face the Slayer" aren't that great, & those overdubbed cymbals are still too distracting. I prefer how the Mercy material was delivered on Live Undead.

Chafe · Post by **Chafe** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:23 am

Ernest Thesiger wrote:
DMR wrote:Anyone who thinks Reign in Blood is the best metal album of all time must be on crack.
Steady on! RiB blew my head open when I was a teen, & still knocks my block off today. The only weak point on it for me is "Epidemic". Show No Mercy is still enjoyable, but to claim it as their best album is just backwards-looking. "Crionics" & "Face the Slayer" aren't that great, & those overdubbed cymbals are still too distracting. I prefer how the Mercy material was delivered on Live Undead.

WHAT!?!?!?, those two are some of the best songs on the album!!!

jared · Post by **jared** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:05 am

MetalizeR wrote:not as good as Show No Mercy but still a classic...

PoserHolocaust · Post by **PoserHolocaust** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:26 am

Show No Mercy and Hell Awaits... even Haunting the Chapel are the best, but Reign in blood is better than South of Heaven and anything after that album and is a classic record.

Ernest Thesiger · Post by **Ernest Thesiger** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:53 am

Chafe wrote:WHAT!?!?!?, those two are some of the best songs on the album!!!

*ducks hail of rocks & bottles*

Heh. These kind of threads always have someone shouting "BURN THE HERETIC!" don't they?

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:01 am

For me it is definitely their fastest record. Otherwise not the best, but not the worst either, went with "not as good as" being the closest choice.

Chafe · Post by **Chafe** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:02 am

Ernest Thesiger wrote:
Chafe wrote:WHAT!?!?!?, those two are some of the best songs on the album!!!
*ducks hail of rocks & bottles*

Heh. These kind of threads always have someone shouting "BURN THE HERETIC!" don't they?

, that wasn't my point, but anyway. For example, I can be burned alive for saying here that I actually like Judas Priest's "Turbo", but I won't care.

gauze · Post by **gauze** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:11 am

well this thread went better than I expected ... I'll chime in here with some of my views on this and some background.

I bought Hell Awaits and Show No Mercy on the same day as I was just getting into (at the time) underground metal stuff in 1985 and I had heard they were one of the best bands. Hell Awaits got 5 spins a day for months afterwards. Show No Mercy also got some love but not as much. Hell Awaits was the most vicious shit I had ever heard, the sound that exploded off the vinyl when played at high volumes was so mind meltingly intense and I was captivated with it entirely, same thing happened when I picked up Sodom-In the Sign of Evil a few months later.
anyway I had located a Hell Awaits backpatch redone from orange background to a dark purple background which I sewed onto my denim jacket and I wrote "satan laughs as you eternally rot" on my locker door at school, I was really into this shit ok? News of a new Slayer album coming soon surfaced in the magazines, and then stories of how it was delayed for release because of offensive content, I HAD TO HAVE THIS ALBUM! I ended up finally seeing it on import cassette for $11 which in 1986 was totally nuts and I played that tape 10 times a day for months and months, it was the absolute pinnacle of metal that had happened up until that point in my mind, it made everything else seem a notch less intense than before I had heard it. To this day I'd consider it a top 5 metal album. (theoretically, since I'm not sure what my top 5 metal records would be ... Sad Wings of Destiny, Morbid Tales, Reign in Blood would be up there though).

of the poll question I listed, I do not get the rap metal thing at all but the guy who said it is kind of a kook (great dude though), the hardcore punk thing I kinda get, but I love (old real) hardcore so this is a plus to me, but it's nonsense those songs are not hardcore in structure or playing at all, only in speed and length.
If you think NWOBHM stuff is the absolute benchmark for metal then I can see Show No Mercy being your favorite stuff, it's got the closest thing to "real songs" on it you'll find in the Slayer catalog.

On a side note I wish they made a whole LP of Haunting the Chapel style stuff with that production, that EP delivers the goods in spades.

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:14 am

Chafe wrote:For example, I can be burned alive for saying here that I actually like Judas Priest's "Turbo", but I won't care.

I love Turbo and never gave a rat's aerse what other people say. Then again I've known to be "against-the-grain" person liking such anti-klassics like "Cold Lake" or "This Time", so I guess I'm a vast minority here

Chafe · Post by **Chafe** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:21 am

stormspell wrote:
Chafe wrote:For example, I can be burned alive for saying here that I actually like Judas Priest's "Turbo", but I won't care.
I love Turbo and never gave a rat's aerse what other people say.

I do like a lot that album too, my exact words on the past post should have been "I'll be burned alive for saying this here, but I actually like a lot blablablablablablablablba".

Shame on me for my not so good english hahahaha.

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Ernest Thesiger · Post by **Ernest Thesiger** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:43 am

gauze wrote:I do not get the rap metal thing at all but the guy who said it is kind of a kook (great dude though)

If he'd been talking about God Hates Us All I would've understood. They got too close to that sub-Machine Head woolly hat metal from the '90s onwards.

deathster · Post by **deathster** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:57 am

For me its their best and one of the best albums in metal history. It was 2nd Slayer album I heard in 1987 , first being "Hell Awaits"; "Show No Mercy" I heard in early 90s I think.). So for me 1986 LP is the deadliest.

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:57 am

I always found Hell Awaits an incredibly boring record. It never did anything for me whatsoever. To think that it was even remotely as great as Reign in Blood, I would have to do a ridiculous amount of drugs.

msp · Post by **msp** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:41 am

It is a good record but maybe not "as good" as it is made out to be. There are some steller moments.

Show No Mercy and South of Heaven were the first two records I ever heard by Slayer and are still probably my favourites to this day. I still get blown away by the start of Evil Has No Boundries.

For what it is worth I feel Reign In Blood became a bit of an albatross around Slayers neck as they always seem to be under pressure to come out with a "Reign In Blood II". They got a lot of flak at the time for South of Heaven but I stil think this holds up well.