Doomy Trad-Metal US Bands

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:04 pm

Is Metal Church too obvious?

anthares · Post by **anthares** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:13 pm

mordred wrote:Is Metal Church too obvious?

No. I dont find it much of a "doomy". Title track maybe.

nightsblood · Post by **nightsblood** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:16 pm

Good call on early Metal Church! Perfect example of not needing to be uber-kvlt to kick ass!

Ion- I didn't mention TLtP b/c I haven't heard that one in about 10 years and i really don't remember it.
I don't much like Druid either

I'd say Witchfinder General crosses on over into doom. A few nwobhm bands did go for the trad-doom sound though: Apocalypse, some Angel Witch, Arc, War Machine, etc

Vault's 'hell of a block' single would also fit the bill[/i]

Sgt. Kuntz · Post by **Sgt. Kuntz** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:49 pm

I also sensed some dark moods on the first Metal Church LP in songs like "Beyond the Black" or "Metal Church"

what about
THUNDER RIDER - TALES OF DARKNESS & LIGHT ?

doomedplanet · Post by **doomedplanet** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:55 pm

I think Lord Ryur fits this bill, though maybe it straddles that line of slightly more uptempo.Dan, Good call on KILLEN, amazing album.

nightsblood · Post by **nightsblood** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:21 pm

Even some tracks on the 2nd Metal Church album would qualify ('The Dark', 'Ton of Bricks', 'Start the Fire', 'Watch the Children Pray,' maybe 'Burial At Sea').

Killen and Image are somewhere in the 'To Play' stack... maybe I should shuffle them to the top of the heap.

ION BRITTON · Post by **ION BRITTON** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:55 pm

WITCHSLAYER and their '83 demo can also be added to the list. I have seen many people getting so excited about it, to me it's simply a good demo, nothing special.

nightsblood · Post by **nightsblood** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:01 pm

ION BRITTON wrote:WITCHSLAYER and their '83 demo can also be added to the list. I have seen many people getting so excited about it, to me it's simply a good demo, nothing special.

Agreed

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm

Force/Obsessed/Trouble also belong here.
Lords Of The Crimson Alliance
Argus

Cochino · Post by **Cochino** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:04 pm

I don't see how Metal Church fits the doomy Heavy Metal thing. In their early albums they were clearly a Speed/Thrash band. Maybe some slow moments, but there were lots of thrash bands with slower riffs, even Slayer.

nightsblood · Post by **nightsblood** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:46 pm

Cochino wrote:I don't see how Metal Church fits the doomy Heavy Metal thing. In their early albums they were clearly a Speed/Thrash band. Maybe some slow moments, but there were lots of thrash bands with slower riffs, even Slayer.

Funny, I've never thought of MC as a thrash band

They had their doomy songs (see earlier posts) but you're right that they also had their high-speed headbanging tunes as well.

Cochino · Post by **Cochino** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:00 pm

I think that songs like "Beyond The Black", "Metal Church" and a couple more in the debut have some thrash riffs, and I would say that The Dark is almost completely a Speed/Thrash album. And again, I think that just a couple of slower riffs, and even slower songs aren't enough to call a band "doomy". Medieval, for example, has some slower, sludgy tracks but I would never call them "doomy". Coven (Us) (to give another example)in the other hand contains a fair share of doom elements to fit the description. But I wasn't the one who started the thread.

Korgüll · Post by **Korgüll** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:18 am

Is Solitude Aeternus too obvious?
It's the first band I think about when someone mentions US doom/power!
First Confessor is another essential piece of US doom. The drumming is insane on that album!
Some other doomy bands I like:
Winter
Crowbar
Novembers Doom (first album!)
Obsessed (& Wino-related...)
Goatlord
& even some of The Melvins stuff...?

**EDIT: I just noticed the thread said Doomy/Trad

mordred · Post by **mordred** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:08 am

Cochino wrote:I don't see how Metal Church fits the doomy Heavy Metal thing. In their early albums they were clearly a Speed/Thrash band. Maybe some slow moments, but there were lots of thrash bands with slower riffs, even Slayer.

It's not like I'm walking around believing Metal Church to be a doom metal band, but I thought that if Tyrant fits the concept then so does Metal Church. In my opinion they are dead on US power metal, not speed/thrash. I'd put them roughly in the same ball park as early Trouble, although Trouble had a much larger Sabbath influence.

Cochino · Post by **Cochino** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:18 am

Wow, really? I would've never thought of the word "Doom" to describe Metal Church.
Maybe this is another reason why metal rules