STEEL PROPHET LP+SALEM SPADE LP+KINGS RANSOM LP(PRE-WYZARD)

doomedplanet · Post by **doomedplanet** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:28 am

maybe put 2 lps inside a single non-fold open cover and put some bonus tracks not on the cd!! Kind of like how all the old 2lp vinyl bootlegs were in the 80's?

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:43 am

Yeah, I'd rather have the (2)LPs with all tracks, otherwise I'll probably just get the CDs. Especially in the Steel Prophet case. An 7" with the extra tracks would be cool too.

LuciferSteele · Post by **LuciferSteele** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:43 pm

well its seems that you are the exceptions that confirm the rule that says: people are more interested into buying a cd release than a vinyl one. i am having a hard time selling my vinyls while the cds sell faster. there is a growing interest on cds and a declining one on vinyl so i focus on the cd. increasing the retail price on a vinyl will only slow down the sales and since we are a very small label that tries to make money from the lps in order to release the cds its a major setback for us. i hope you understand the position we are in.

doomedplanet · Post by **doomedplanet** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:24 pm

All I can say is I buy vinyl to cd in a 10: 1 ratio anymore.

In the case of vinyl you have to offer something not on a cd. Either make a record with no cd, or better yet make it vinyl only bonus tracks, but this is of course my opinion. But of course it is your label so you get to make all the decisions.
I'm not sure what I'll do in this case since the vinyl missing 20 minutes makes it very incomplete release. Mores the pity at that. Maybe include a free cd with all lps since cds are dirt cheap to manufacture? who knows.

I notice rare record sales are not in the decline. So maybe no one has money left over to buy the nice new release, instead they spent $500 on a old lp

LuciferSteele · Post by **LuciferSteele** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:47 pm

doomedplanet wrote: I notice rare record sales are not in the decline. So maybe no one has money left over to buy the nice new release, instead they spent $500 on a old lp

you are so right. that's a pity. for example it took me almost a year to sell the 500 copies of a (lp ONLY) release like Tyrant which (allow me to say this) i consider as one of the best in the whole reissue business. and i got comments that 15 euros was too much... so new releases on vinyl is near dead for me. i am very disappointed and i only do vinyl because i started this business having vinyl on my mind... but you can't support a label only on vinyl anymore...

The Sentinel · Post by **The Sentinel** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:53 pm

LuciferSteele wrote:like Tyrant which (allow me to say this) i consider as one of the best in the whole reissue business. and i got comments that 15 euros was too much...

Anyone who thinks 15 euro is to much for such a GODLIKE record is a retard, sorry to say it.

doomedplanet · Post by **doomedplanet** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:59 pm

I agree.

The Sentinel wrote:
Anyone who thinks 15 euro is to much for such a GODLIKE record is a retard, sorry to say it.

by the way, read this interesting article:

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/musi ... gpost_1029

BlackStele · Post by **BlackStele** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:00 pm

The Sentinel wrote:
LuciferSteele wrote:like Tyrant which (allow me to say this) i consider as one of the best in the whole reissue business. and i got comments that 15 euros was too much...
Anyone who thinks 15 euro is to much for such a GODLIKE record is a retard, sorry to say it.

Honestly, I can't fucking understand that...it doesn't make any sense to me....does this attitude supports the band??? I don't think so...And as said previously, paying great amounts for old records is on anyone's concern..BUT I consider great obligation for someome who respects himself to buy the official new releases too...will someone spend 500$ for a record, and he won't have 15-20$ to buy the new release??

doomedplanet · Post by **doomedplanet** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:04 pm

Unfortunately yes this is very true, I know some folks like this. Almost (but not always) paying attention to the rare releases. So of course when the new release is gone they scramble to find a copy. Doesn't help tiny distros that shut down because they just trying to make their money back and don't succeed.

BlackStele wrote: will someone spend 500$ for a record, and he won't have 15-20 to buy the new release??

BlackStele · Post by **BlackStele** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:10 pm

doomedplanet wrote:Unfortunately yes this is very true, I know some folks like this. Almost (but not always) paying attention to the rare releases. So of course when the new release is gone they scramble to find a copy. Doesn't help tiny distros that shut down because they just trying to make their money back and don't succeed.

BlackStele wrote: will someone spend 500$ for a record, and he won't have 15-20 to buy the new release??

...so, allow me to say that these"people" are not Metalheads, but collectors..there's a huge difference...My logic is" You pay lots of money for a record because YOU LIKE THE BAND ABOVE ALL, so if in the future there will be an OFFICIAL re-release or sth you WILL buy this item for the SAKE of your favourite band"....am I wrong? And I support this idea: Buy more than one copy of the new releases, but who cares for vinyl anymore?

DMR · Post by **DMR** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:30 pm

LuciferSteele wrote:
doomedplanet wrote: I notice rare record sales are not in the decline. So maybe no one has money left over to buy the nice new release, instead they spent $500 on a old lp
you are so right. that's a pity. for example it took me almost a year to sell the 500 copies of a (lp ONLY) release like Tyrant which (allow me to say this) i consider as one of the best in the whole reissue business. and i got comments that 15 euros was too much... so new releases on vinyl is near dead for me. i am very disappointed and i only do vinyl because i started this business having vinyl on my mind... but you can't support a label only on vinyl anymore...

The Tyrant LP is the only vinyl I own (besides the 7" that came with the last issue of Snakepit). I would've bought a CD version instead if you'd released one, though.

Black Axe · Post by **Black Axe** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:09 pm

The Tyrant LP is one of those I should own, but somehow I don't have it.

I believe I have all their demo's somewhere on one of my other harddrives.

Stormspell · Post by **Stormspell** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:56 pm

AAARGH! KINGS RANSOM! Kostas, Panos, congrats on the upcoming releases! They sound bloody awesome!

P.S. Dont forget to shoot me an e-mail when the CDs are out!

LuciferSteele · Post by **LuciferSteele** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:17 am

don't worry my friend!

hload · Post by **hload** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:29 am

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