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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:04 pm
by Abyss
Black Axe wrote:Holocaust (UK) comes to mind.
Were you thinking Hypnosis of Birds? I haven't heard anything after that one.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:55 pm
by ChildOfTheDamned
You should check out their 2003 "Primal" CD,although there's nothing "savagely brutal" about it! :P

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:54 pm
by King Zombie
Suffocation is brutal, I'm not saying is a raw band, like many old school out there, but yes it is brutal.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:19 pm
by Noisenik
Suffocation are savagely brutal, but not prog. :D

Actually we need an even mixture of Psychotic Waltz and Suffocation for example. With a pinch of Ligeti. Or wholly Ligeti undertoned. So which bands would sacrifice itself for that aim?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:26 pm
by Black Axe
Noisenik wrote:Suffocation are savagely brutal, but not prog. :D

Actually we need an even mixture of Psychotic Waltz and Suffocation for example. With a pinch of Ligeti. Or wholly Ligeti undertoned. So which bands would sacrifice itself for that aim?
Your own new band? You know what needs to be played for this, so it's your mission.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:09 pm
by ChildOfTheDamned
Who the hell is Ligeti?!?! Anyway,I think this is a pointless search,we could as well be searchings for ultra-fast doom metal or drone/thrash. Just put Energetic Disassembly on your deck or CD-player and turn the volume up!

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:13 pm
by Noisenik
Black Axe wrote:
Noisenik wrote:Suffocation are savagely brutal, but not prog. :D

Actually we need an even mixture of Psychotic Waltz and Suffocation for example. With a pinch of Ligeti. Or wholly Ligeti undertoned. So which bands would sacrifice itself for that aim?
Your own new band? You know what needs to be played for this, so it's your mission.
It was more like suggestion to certain (future) members - players who would stumble upon this thread and found the idea appealing . :wink:

No, seriously. It'd be hard to find someone who'd be eager to cooperate in such heavy, experimental work, quite possibly without success.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:25 pm
by Black Axe
Noisenik wrote:No, seriously. It'd be hard to find someone who'd be eager to cooperate in such heavy, experimental work, quite possibly without success.
Any serious heavy metal fan who has some affection for progressive and brutal metal styles should be eager to help.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:40 pm
by Noisenik
ChildOfTheDamned wrote:Who the hell is Ligeti?!?! Anyway,I think this is a pointless search,we could as well be searchings for ultra-fast doom metal or drone/thrash. Just put Energetic Disassembly on your deck or CD-player and turn the volume up!
Well, ultra fast doom metal perhaps isn't possible, but SB progmetal in my opinion is. As well as drone thrash.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:42 pm
by King Zombie
Noisenik wrote:
ChildOfTheDamned wrote:Who the hell is Ligeti?!?! Anyway,I think this is a pointless search,we could as well be searchings for ultra-fast doom metal or drone/thrash. Just put Energetic Disassembly on your deck or CD-player and turn the volume up!
Well, ultra fast doom metal perhaps isn't possible, but SB progmetal in my opinion is. As well as drone thrash.
Sludge or even grunge perhaps, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden could be examples of slow heavy music.

Do you like Yes (the band form UK)?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:46 pm
by Noisenik
SolidSnake311 wrote: Sludge or even grunge perhaps, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden could be examples of slow heavy music.

Do you like Yes (the band form UK)?
Yes. Certain albums to a certain degree. But haven't listened to them in ages.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:59 pm
by The Sentinel
Noisenik wrote:
SolidSnake311 wrote: Sludge or even grunge perhaps, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden could be examples of slow heavy music.

Do you like Yes (the band form UK)?
Yes. Certain albums to a certain degree. But haven't listened to them in ages.
I have "Fragile" on LP which I like very much, it was one of my first records 20 years back

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:09 pm
by Noisenik
The Sentinel wrote: I have "Fragile" on LP which I like very much, it was one of my first records 20 years back
Yes, this one along with Relayer and The Yes Album.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:52 pm
by LuciferSteele
The Sentinel wrote:AAHH, that's my cup of tea :wink: I think one of the best examples could be Slauter Xtroyes with "Winter Kill". The approach is definitely savage with emphasis on song structures that could be labeled as prog.
I think that Free the Beast takes the word savage to a new level. i mean winterkill is freakin awesome but free the beast sounds like a pack of rabid wolfs attacking a kindergarden. insane!

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:30 pm
by Stormspell
SIDER - Labyrinth comes easily to mind!