Insane ebay auctions - VINYL, tapes & merch

humus · Post by **humus** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:36 pm

I don't get this 70's rock thing either. Non-metal for metallers or something.
I do know one thing: next time Iron pegasus releases a single that I don't like, I'm buying everything from that band. I remember him having 20 copies of that first The devil's blood 7" at a show, and last year the same with Ghost. Both bands suck, both bands sell for shamefull amounts on ebay.

faster · Post by **faster** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:24 pm

nightsblood wrote:Some copies of the GHOST have been selling for closer to $500. They're the new trend, everyone hop on board! I've listened to several songs and personally I can't stand them; total 'gimmick' band IMO

Ghost is a POP group disguised as a metal act

Dokken_Uwe · Post by **Dokken_Uwe** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:30 pm

faster wrote:
nightsblood wrote:Some copies of the GHOST have been selling for closer to $500. They're the new trend, everyone hop on board! I've listened to several songs and personally I can't stand them; total 'gimmick' band IMO
Ghost is a POP band disguised as a metal act

Yes, biggest joke of the quite young century.

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:51 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IRON-CROSS-LP-S ... 2eb79b3442

perishinflames · Post by **perishinflames** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:08 pm

+1 on Ghost, total shite (and not the good kind

).

Wish I'd have had the foresight to stock up on these though.

MEXDefenderOfSteel · Post by **MEXDefenderOfSteel** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:29 pm

Nasty Uwe wrote:
faster wrote:
nightsblood wrote:Some copies of the GHOST have been selling for closer to $500. They're the new trend, everyone hop on board! I've listened to several songs and personally I can't stand them; total 'gimmick' band IMO
Ghost is a POP band disguised as a metal act
Yes, biggest joke of the quite young century.

or like a big scary wolf....withouth a single teeth

nightsblood · Post by **nightsblood** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:40 pm

That's reasonable for the Iron Cross I *think*

The 70s rock retro thing seems, at least locally, to have a lot to do with the hipster scene. I don't mind The Devil's Blood; still a bit gimmicky but not as cheesy as GHOST, and the music is pretty good IMO. Ghost is just silly- "oooo, we're scary 'cause we use anti-Christian imagry- oooooo!!". That might have gotten my interest if I was still 14 years old. They seem more worried about their make-up/costume than writing a song that's any good.

It is crazy how much some of these relatively new releases start selling for right away. Agalloch albums seem to start at $100, Ghost and Devils Blood sell for a lot, couple of the BBTAD LPs already sell for $50-80. Wacky.

Keir · Post by **Keir** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:00 am

faster wrote:Ghost is a POP group disguised as a metal act

I agree, but I still like them. Heck, you could have said the same thing about Blue Oyster Cult 35 years ago.

I will agree that the prices that single fetches are insane. I know all collectors are crazy but I will never understand the concept behind these "instant collectables".

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:09 am

Keir wrote:"instant collectables".

More like instant stupidity.

nightsblood · Post by **nightsblood** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:08 pm

Avenger wrote:
Keir wrote:"instant collectables".
More like instant stupidity.

From a business/investment standpoint, it's hard to see much potential for such items to increase or maintain their value in the future. Such 'instant collectibles' tend to lose their value relatively quickly- Beanie Babies being the perfect example. For a year or two people were throwing money at those things, then suddenly you couldn't give them away. Gimmicky bands tend to burn out fast (coughcoughWitchery) or their popularity quickly wanes and they're supported by a smaller fan base in the future (coughcoughGwar). In either case, there will be fewer people willing to pay big bucks for their collectibles down the road.

Another problem with 'instant collectibles' is that, even if some demand persists, the Supply often remains too high to support the inflated prices. For example: many vintage metal LPs and CDs sell for high prices now b/c many copies were damaged, destroyed, or lost over the years. But ZERO copies of a GHOST Die Hard Edition get trashed due to poor sales. ZERO copies of Mastodon on colored vinyl land in the cut-out bin. And ZERO copies of an Agalloch Wooden Box Set are gonna get thrown out or beat up. Every copy of such items winds up in collectors' hands right away, so they're all cared for and saved in new/Unplayed condition. So 20 years from now there will be no problem finding a copy in NM condition- they'll ALL still be in NM condition!

The only way these things can continue to climb in value is if the bands either sell out and acquire a much larger fan base (e.g., Metallica) or they find a way to maintain their popularity over the long haul. Maybe Agalloch can do that, but GHOST reeks of 'flavor of the month' to me.

Of course you don't have to treat records as investments. Still, I'd hate to pay $500 for an album today only to see the price drop to $50 within a few years once the band has fizzled and everyone moves on to the next hyped act.

That's right, I called GHOST the Beanie Baby of the metal underground!

lunaboy · Post by **lunaboy** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:24 pm

Sorry for off topic but now some words on a bit different subject.The Last few months I noticed a lot of auctions for SALEM'S WYCH LP (There's an auction almost every week of this LP) and price is still goes +200 USD.I mean is there so many people/collectors who still want to own this record? This is a bit strange. Even now there's 3 copies of this record on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... Categories

Glockose · Post by **Glockose** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:33 pm

lunaboy wrote:Sorry for off topic but now some words on a bit different subject.The Last few months I noticed a lot of auctions for SALEM'S WYCH LP (There's an auction almost every week of this LP) and price is still goes +200 USD.I mean is there so many people/collectors who still want to own this record? This is a bit strange. Even now there's 3 copies of this record on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... Categories

I have been talking about the same thing for a few months now.
The price is just crazy after all this time.

AND what is this????

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Salems-Wych-Bet ... 3f0e7ada0c

Is he trying to sell a CDR of the LP?

I guess folks do not know they pressed 1500 copies of this LP and still had most of them in the late 90's. I was offered 100 copies of this LP about 10 years ago and turned it down. It looks like they ended up at Atomin Records, CA

apollo.ra · Post by **apollo.ra** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:42 pm

At this quantity and this supply, price should be 30-50$...
But still it goes pass the 200$ limit

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:05 pm

nightsblood wrote:
Avenger wrote:
Keir wrote:"instant collectables".
More like instant stupidity.
That's right, I called GHOST the Beanie Baby of the metal underground!

I would say that's pretty accurate. Minus the "Metal" part.

chatzial · Post by **chatzial** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:18 pm

I don't think that there are that many Salem's Wych left now. 7 or 8 years ago (or mayge a bit more, i don't remember) Mark Gast had around 30 copies left, so most of them must have sold by now. I also remember that J.P. got many copies from him before that. Anyway it's price should be around $100 max.