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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:29 am
by Avenger
pan_Heathen wrote:
mega_lodon wrote:
slayerhatesusall wrote:Its not even actually a first pressing...
http://cgi.ebay.com/OVERKILL-Taking-Ove ... 27b7b6ce25
:roll:
Just curious, how to tell if it is a 1st pressing? I have the CD that without ifpi code... :roll: Bought it years ago but definitely not on the 1st day of its release :lol: .
It was definitely pressed before 1995, but there is a general problem with the Atlantic or Elektra releases, they are difficult to put a timeline on. Same problem with Testament or Metal Church. But since the later presses are identical, who really cares?
How do you know?

All the CD's at the local HMV's have the same sticker with artist/title/barcode on the top.

Also, you can get pretty close with a date on those CD's.

The Matrix and lack of IFPI Codes wil tell you a lot.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:47 pm
by mega_lodon
The other day I was organizing my CD collection, I looked at a bunch CDs (Testament, Overkill, Manowar, Metal Church, etc) which I bought mostly in the 90s and I just wondered by any chance those are 1st pressing :?: :? Guess that only my “Horroscope” (longbox copy) is 1st pressing ‘cos I bought it at the time when it was just released.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:02 pm
by perishinflames
Avenger wrote:How do you know?
He's referring to mega_lodon's copy (w/out ifpi), not the copy for auction. The one for sale was probably pressed in 2008 :lol:

It's really hard to tell with that Atlantic stuff, but the earlier copies often had a red ring around the circumference of the disc, and newer ones don't. As far as I know, there's no way to tell a true first pressing (as they used the same stampers for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, a whole lot of different press runs. All discs are visually identical, the only difference will be the offset, detectable with a good CD ripper like EAC. This way you can tell between different press runs, but still no way of telling which came first).

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:31 am
by Avenger
perishinflames wrote:
Avenger wrote:How do you know?
It's really hard to tell with that Atlantic stuff, but the earlier copies often had a red ring around the circumference of the disc, and newer ones don't. As far as I know, there's no way to tell a true first pressing (as they used the same stampers for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, a whole lot of different press runs. All discs are visually identical, the only difference will be the offset, detectable with a good CD ripper like EAC. This way you can tell between different press runs, but still no way of telling which came first).
Most of these CD's were pressed by SRC. The number folloing the "SRC" prefix in the matrix represents the press run.

To everyone else that could give a rats ass about this information but is reading it anyways, yes, I'm already aware that I'm a nerd in this aspect, get over yourselves.

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:04 am
by Helstar
Mine is SRC+03 IFPI 2U3L, so it's third press (from mid 90s or something like that...)

Also who knows how many copies they did for each 'run' and what is the last SRC number =)

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:44 pm
by Heathen
If I was ever to make a list of "what I didn't want to see the most when casually looking at finished ebay listings" this one would rank pretty high !!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... q0uyg%253D

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:47 pm
by Nebuchadnezzar
:shock: Did you buy it?

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:51 pm
by Heathen
Nebuchadnezzar wrote::shock: Did you buy it?
No, I am just left pondering what might have been had I looked at new listings an hour earlier ;)

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:56 pm
by Nebuchadnezzar
You have to be very lucky to get such a title even if you have too many spare time checking every minute like some guys do...

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:00 pm
by perishinflames
ugh that's sick. This guy obviously bought someone's metal collection and has no idea what the stuff is worth. He has a common Carcass CD for $75 but sold this Impact, and sold Gladiator's "Designation" for $20! :shock:

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:08 pm
by Dokken_Uwe
perishinflames wrote:ugh that's sick. This guy obviously bought someone's metal collection and has no idea what the stuff is worth. He has a common Carcass CD for $75 but sold this Impact, and sold Gladiator's "Designation" for $20! :shock:
I prefer to buy from sellers who don't know the worth of some rare items. :wink:

Concerning the IMPACT cd i guess it was an "Once in a lifetime" fortune. :shock:

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:26 pm
by Heathen
Nasty Uwe wrote: I prefer to buy from sellers who don't know the worth of some rare items.
Yeah, this kind of deals rule. not so long ago I've had a pleasure of dealing with a guy who as a way of thanking me for buying some CDs added Incubus - BTU and Morbid Saint - SOD for 5$ each ;)

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:59 pm
by slayerhatesusall
pan_Heathen wrote:If I was ever to make a list of "what I didn't want to see the most when casually looking at finished ebay listings" this one would rank pretty high !!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... q0uyg%253D
I bet everyone here that sees that is now gonna keep refreshing his newly listed items now every few minutes to see what other rarities he lists cheaply.

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:40 pm
by Helstar
I want to die. :lol:

I hope it went in the hands of somebody who didn't have it ... would be too sad to see it again on selling from the re-sellers.

Edit: A guy from South Korea won it. He has actually bought two Jumpin Jesus cds ... uhm ... :\

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:38 am
by Yakish
This Impact it's not a bootleg made by band recently, right? I asking because on this ended auction any info about matrix etc.