Need info on some records (OLD'n'LOCKED)

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:19 am

pan_Heathen wrote:
Avenger wrote:I guess the only way to tell would be the Matrix but I've been asking sellers for a long time and it's always the typical Greek bootleg album title.
But the seller of the first one claims that the matrix is USDM 4343 MANDATOR 19421-1. But since noone knows what is the matrix of the original one (if it even exists) then this information is useless.

Any "USDM" Matrix is a bootleg as well. Several metal CD's have been bootlegged with a matrix starting with a "USDM" prefix. Angel Dust, Vendetta, Apocrypha, etc, etc...

pan_Heathen wrote:
Avenger wrote: Regarding "Perfect Progeny" this exists as an original on Disaster and pops up from time to time. I personally own a copy. Expect to pay $80.00+ USD for this though. A copy recently sold on eBay for $130.00 USD. Beware of the Greek bootlegs told apart by Matrix as well.
Could you tell me what is the matrix of the original one?

AM 10010 P+O-4418-A 11-89

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:14 pm

I had that USDM copy of Initial Velocity, and it was in a pretty shitty quality, inserts were printed badly etc.

Pan_heathen; did you buy my Perfect Progeny CD on ebay earlier this year?

oldskoolcollector · Post by **oldskoolcollector** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:24 pm

Yeah, Avenger is right, that's the original pressing of Mandator.

I have also one for sale by way

The other one does not excist on CD!

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:33 pm

sovdat wrote:I had that USDM copy of Initial Velocity, and it was in a pretty shitty quality, inserts were printed badly etc.

Pan_heathen; did you buy my Perfect Progeny CD on ebay earlier this year?

No, I did not

Just out of curiosity, how much did you score for it?

oldskoolcollector wrote: I have also one for sale by way

Yeah, but the problem is that you know how much it's worth

MexicanMetaler666 · Post by **MexicanMetaler666** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:37 pm

Any have heard RIP (US) - Give Me the Night EP? its any good? how rare it is? how much I should pay for a good copy? thanks!!

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:08 am

pan_Heathen wrote:
oldskoolcollector wrote: I have also one for sale by way
Yeah, but the problem is that you know how much it's worth

Anyone that doesn't know the worth of the original is selling a bootleg though.

sovdat · Post by **sovdat** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:28 am

I sold it to ebay user heathen-war for $102.50 (because I needed money). Not bad for a CD which I got in a trade for Manowar - Fighting the World (and it was original).

Heathen · Post by **Heathen** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:04 am

Avenger wrote:
pan_Heathen wrote:
oldskoolcollector wrote: I have also one for sale by way
Yeah, but the problem is that you know how much it's worth
Anyone that doesn't know the worth of the original is selling a bootleg though.

That's probabily right in most cases, but all the fun is to get expensive CDs below their market value, at least that's all the fun for me. And - you know it better than me - in most cases it's just a matter of time and some searching

Maybe I would see it from a different perspective if i lived in a country with a strong currency.

Sgt. Kuntz · Post by **Sgt. Kuntz** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:58 pm

Could anybody enlighten me with some info about the following albums, are they any good and what about the circa value:

BATTLECHRYST (Ger) - "same" EP (is it really limited to 10 copies?)
CRYSTAL PHOENIX (Ita) - Same LP
SHADOWFOX (US) - "First Blood" LP Ariel Records

Thanks!

zeuhl · Post by **zeuhl** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:26 pm

Did EVIL "Evil's message" MLP come with an insert?

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:05 pm

I don't believe 'Evil's Message' had an insert. Mine doesn't have one either.

SHADOWFOX is very poor, it sounds more like some Southern Rock than metal.

Sgt. Kuntz · Post by **Sgt. Kuntz** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:59 pm

daniel wrote: SHADOWFOX is very poor, it sounds more like some Southern Rock than metal.

Not what i wanted to hear

, but thanks for the warning though!

Avenger · Post by **Avenger** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:11 pm

Among others, here are a few that recently arrived:

Howlin' Mad - Insanity, 1990 West Virginia
Messiah Prophet - Master Of The Metal, 1986 Pure Metal
Helloween - Judas Single + OBI, 1986/1991 Victor (Japan)
Amulance - Feel The Pain, 1989 New Renaissance
Kryst THe Conqueror - Deliver Us From Evil, 1989 Cyclopean Music (100% original)
Toranaga - God's Gift, 1990 Chrysalis
Lawshed - Let Us Not Talk Falsely + OBI, 1991 Howling Bull
Reverend - Play God, 1991 Charisma

doomedplanet · Post by **doomedplanet** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:26 pm

BATTLECHRYST is a test pressing made a couple of years ago, not a real release. I have never heard it and I guess it is expensive but ...

CRYSTAL PHOENIX, do you refer to the original Video Star pressing or the Si-wan Korean repress? The repress has great fold open poster cover and isn't nearly as scarce as the original. Shouldn't be too expensive. I never held an original copy in my hands. guess it must cost at least 100 euro or maybe more?

Sgt. Kuntz wrote:Could anybody enlighten me with some info about the following albums, are they any good and what about the circa value:

BATTLECHRYST (Ger) - "same" EP (is it really limited to 10 copies?)
CRYSTAL PHOENIX (Ita) - Same LP

Thanks!

Sgt. Kuntz · Post by **Sgt. Kuntz** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:57 pm

doomedplanet wrote:BATTLECHRYST is a test pressing made a couple of years ago, not a real release. I have never heard it and I guess it is expensive but ...

CRYSTAL PHOENIX, do you refer to the original Video Star pressing or the Si-wan Korean repress? The repress has great fold open poster cover and isn't nearly as scarce as the original. Shouldn't be too expensive. I never held an original copy in my hands. guess it must cost at least 100 euro or maybe more?

I had a chance to buy the Korean version for 90€, so i guess that`s a decent price then. Cheers!